Level Up (A5E) My concern about the fighter.

[Minigiant]

Ultimately my worries are:

1. The Ranger is losing spells and gaining fighters stuff in place.
2. The Berserker is getting nature features as well as combat versatility
3. So the Ranger might start becoming a better Fighter (within it's combat specialty)
4. The Berserker might start becoming a better Ranger as it gains skills whereas the Ranger tilts to combat.
5. The Fighter therefore only shines in fighting styles Berserkers, Paladins, and Rangers lack which is...????

 

[tetrasodium]

Ultimately my worries are:

1. The Ranger is losing spells and gaining fighters stuff in place.
2. The Berserker is getting nature features as well as combat versatility
3. So the Ranger might start becoming a better Fighter (within it's combat specialty)
4. The Berserker might start becoming a better Ranger as it gains skills whereas the Ranger tilts to combat.
5. The Fighter therefore only shines in fighting styles Berserkers, Paladins, and Rangers lack which is...????

Are you talking about exploration knacks that everyone gets?

 

[Minigiant]

Are you talking about exploration knacks that everyone gets?

Knacks, skills, maneuvers. The 3 classes are kind of converging. And if the differing aspects don't scale, you get a lot of overlapping.

 

[tetrasodium]

Knacks, skills, maneuvers. The 3 classes are kind of converging. And if the differing aspects don't scale, you get a lot of overlapping.

They don't all have the same knacks or maneuvers

 

[Faolyn]

Why not?

Because it's supposed to be backwards-compatible with 5e.

If, like Pathfinder, LU gets a 2nd edition, it can make bolder changes.

 

[Faolyn]

Ultimately my worries are:

1. The Ranger is losing spells and gaining fighters stuff in place.
2. The Berserker is getting nature features as well as combat versatility
3. So the Ranger might start becoming a better Fighter (within it's combat specialty)
4. The Berserker might start becoming a better Ranger as it gains skills whereas the Ranger tilts to combat.
5. The Fighter therefore only shines in fighting styles Berserkers, Paladins, and Rangers lack which is...????

Your job (if you choose to accept it) is to make a ranger, berserker, and fighter using the LU rules, and decide for yourself if there is too much overlap.

 

[Minigiant]

They don't all have the same knacks or maneuvers

That's uh what I'm saying.
Skills are easily swapped and gained.
Knacks are low tier or skill related.

So the classes feel, to me, like the 3 classes overlap a lot and the main differences are their maneuver suites and their main combat mechanic.

 

[Stalker0]

Knacks are low tier or skill related.

Don’t let the name fool you, knacks are not created equal among classes. Ranger knacks can be very strong for example.

 

[Minigiant]

Don’t let the name fool you, knacks are not created equal among classes. Ranger knacks can be very strong for example.

I see them as sorta weak.

That's probably where the disconnect between me and some of you comes from.

 

[Horwath]

Don’t let the name fool you, knacks are not created equal among classes. Ranger knacks can be very strong for example.

only ranger knack that is "strong" is See the unseen. It's still missing what kind of time is needed to get that vision.
a useful 5th level ability that last an hour.

the rest... too week, too circumstantial and most need 3 weeks to start working.
and comparing to beserkers, fighters and even rogues, just worse.