Need a weapon for Sacrifices

[Tetujin]

Que??? No comprende senor.

The last I checked sacrifices were evil, and not something that a NG deity would condone. What do you plan to do when someone in the party makes their Knowledge (Religion) check and realizes that good deities don't condone sacrifices, thus you are not a cleric of a good deity?

Thats where the high bluff comes in, ie: when someone says "But that deity cant be demanding a sacrifi.." "Followers! seize this non believer, he tried to weaken our faith!" ::Bluff and Diplomacy Check::

 

[James McMurray]

So when the party points out that you are evil you plan on capturing and/or killing them all? Hmmm... Not sure I'd want to play in that campaign.

 

[Felix]

Perhaps a less public sacrifice to the [Evil God of Choice]? Or couch the "sacrifice" in terms that good followers would think are consistent with a Good god's policies?

Eg. "For the God of Life and Healing to help the populace, He needs life forces... if you are able to supply your church with life force, I can help your dead son, but it would need to be a life force in equal measure to your loss."

Convincing a peasant of this would a) make him go kidnap a child and do an Evil deed in providing a sacrifice or, b) convince him that the Good god of healing can't really help everyday people... maybe the Church of [Evil God of Choice] can help him...

This would be a more subtle way to spread Evil and strife, and not create immediate tensions within the party.

 

[Tetujin]

So when the party points out that you are evil you plan on capturing and/or killing them all? Hmmm... Not sure I'd want to play in that campaign.

Well, when It comes to party members I'm counting on them not having ranks in Knowledge religion, and better yet, simply not be very bright. Also, still not sure what the allignment of the party would be, but LE or NE sounds quite likely, in which case I'll have to let them in on it.

 

[James McMurray]

Well, if it turns out to not be good party, that's fine. Evil campaigns can be fun too. Its just when someone wants to play an evil character in a good party that I get leery, and only because they would often rather destroy the fun of the rest of the group via TPK then have that character leave once it becomes apparent that its evil.

Doesn't the BoVD have a weapon specifically made for sacrifices, which grants bonuses to the skill check?

 

[Tetujin]

Doesn't the BoVD have a weapon specifically made for sacrifices, which grants bonuses to the skill check?

A sacrifice check is just a knowledge religion check with some other modifiers, right now ive got around +22, but this just give you better favor for the sacrifice, it has no effect on how the subject is sacrificed (my weapon will be the spell "sacrifical skill" once/day, for a +5 bonus)

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Well, when It comes to party members I'm counting on them not having ranks in Knowledge religion, and better yet, simply not be very bright.

Hmm.. I think the knowledge that "good gods don't want sacrificed of intelligent beings" can be gained via an untrained Knowledge(Religion) check. I'd set the DC for that one around zero.

 

[Rel]

I've got a similar situation going on in my game right now.

The Rogue in the party gave up his soul to an Erinyes (albeit for the greater good of the party) and now he's trying to get it back. He worked out a deal with her whereupon she obtained a "Sacrificial Dagger" for him and when he kills stuff with it (i.e. delivers the killing blow) those souls also become her property. When he sacrifices enough souls, he gets his own soul out of hock.

Another PC in the party is a Lawful Neutral Cleric of St. Cuthbert. The player of this character knows what is going on but he's careful to keep that separate from character knowledge. The Rogue just makes sure to stay out of the way when the Cleric Detects Evil and keeps the dagger in a Glove of Storing.

He's also recently discovered that the dagger is not a dagger at all. It's a Devil that's been shaped into a dagger. It is siphoning off part of each kill for its own purposes and is gaining power as time goes on. It has now told the Rogue that it can share some of these powers with him to make his job easier.

All in all, tremendous fun roleplaying for everyone. Though it probably helps that nobody in the party is Good aligned (except for the NE Rogue, everybody else is some shade of Neutral).

 

[Darklone]

Ahem

*taptap, waiting for these updates*

 

[kwiqsilver]

Thats where the high bluff comes in, ie: when someone says "But that deity cant be demanding a sacrifi.." "Followers! seize this non believer, he tried to weaken our faith!" ::Bluff and Diplomacy Check::

How stupid do you expect the other characters to be? Anybody with a double digit INT score is going to know that a good diety does not require sacrifices.
That's why evil clerics hide their practices when they're around good people.