Neverwinter Nights 2!!!

[Banshee16]

After playing around with it for a couple of hours, I have a few thoughts.

1. Why did they keep the excatly the same voice sets from NWN 1? I thought since it was a new game, they would redo the voice sets.

2. Why do they list every weapon for weapon speciality, ect? They way they did that in NWN 1 was better.

3. I could not select my feats, skills when i started my characters.

4. I like dwarves, how come they could not put in a beard for dwarves that was NOT braded and had decorations in it? I just wanted a basic beard.

They did the same thing when they created BG2. Lots of the same voices. It's a sunk cost. Why not reuse them? They did add new voices for NWN2 though, didn't they? I seem to remember that the voice list wasn't nearly as big for NWN 1 as it is for NWN2.

As to the weapon specialties, I have no idea. It's not the friendlist interface this time around.

As to dwarven beards, who knows? I could say the same thing about facial hair period in the game. There is basically the choice to have it, or not to have it. But there are no choices for *types* of facial hair....ie. mustache, goattee, big fluffy beard, handlebar mustache, etc.

Banshee

 

[Kaodi]

I may be mistaken, but I think I have discovered that the Lightfoot halfling is completely worthless as a race in this game, as written.

Lightfoots have +1 racial bonus to saves. Stronghearts have a bonus feat. With that bonus feat, a Strongheart can take Luck of Heroes, with grants a +1 luck bonus to all saves, and a +1 luck bonus to AC. And since I haven't seen any other luck bonuses to not stack with, that essentially means the luck bonus is just as strong as the racial bonus, and Stronghearts rule the day, every day.

Essentially, why would you play a Lightfoot when you could play a Strongheart with Luck of Heroes?

 

[werk]

To answer why they would keep the old ones, why not? Why throw out the old ones when they're still good?

Because it is a new game? Why buy NWN2, when NWN1 is still good. Why don't resteraunts serve left-overs...they're still good.

I haven't bought it yet, simply because the packaging looks just like NWN1. For being the most creative game on Earth, we're really getting mediocre D&D computer games IMNSHO.

 

[Banshee16]

Because it is a new game? Why buy NWN2, when NWN1 is still good. Why don't resteraunts serve left-overs...they're still good.

I haven't bought it yet, simply because the packaging looks just like NWN1. For being the most creative game on Earth, we're really getting mediocre D&D computer games IMNSHO.

If you're making that judgement based on the packaging, I'm not sure you're using the best criteria to make your decision..

Banshee

 

[trancejeremy]

Eh - when SSI had the AD&D license, they pumped out what, 11 of those Gold Box games. And I bought every single one when they came out (except the Buck Rogers, and that was because it didn't have Twiki in it)

 

[Matchstick]

Bidi bidi bidi. Good choice Buck.

 

[Michael Morris]

I may be mistaken, but I think I have discovered that the Lightfoot halfling is completely worthless as a race in this game, as written.

Lightfoots have +1 racial bonus to saves. Stronghearts have a bonus feat. With that bonus feat, a Strongheart can take Luck of Heroes, with grants a +1 luck bonus to all saves, and a +1 luck bonus to AC. And since I haven't seen any other luck bonuses to not stack with, that essentially means the luck bonus is just as strong as the racial bonus, and Stronghearts rule the day, every day.

Essentially, why would you play a Lightfoot when you could play a Strongheart with Luck of Heroes?

I play a lightfoot with luck of heroes - which stacks with the racial +1 bonus to saves Along with lightning reflexes and the troublemaker feat my reflex save is INSANELY high.

 

[werk]

If you're making that judgement based on the packaging, I'm not sure you're using the best criteria to make your decision..

Banshee

I feel obligated to retort.

Packaging is merely the first in a series of things that were not updated in the new NWN. They had a good idea, and now they are milking it...consider AoE3. AoE1, great, AoE2, awesome, AoE3, sadly disappointing. In an effort to improve they lost direction.

They didn't make a new game, they just rehashed the original, in the process, losing a lot of the appeal that the first game had.

That said, packaging is very important, for many reasons. Don't judge a book by it's cover, but a lot of work goes into book covers...

 

[Michael Morris]

: shrug :

I didn't buy NWN2 for the game - I bought it for the toolset. That alone justifies the cost to me (I'm sketching out doing a module for it now).

 

[Banshee16]

Eh - when SSI had the AD&D license, they pumped out what, 11 of those Gold Box games. And I bought every single one when they came out (except the Buck Rogers, and that was because it didn't have Twiki in it)

The Gold Box games were nice at the time, but infinitely simpler than today's. I'm not sure they can be compared. NWN2 actually has a much more faithful implementation of the D&D ruleset than NWN 1 did. At the simplest level, no more super-familiars. Magic item creation is much more like the core rules than it was in NWN 1, etc.

Banshee