NEW Immortals Handbook - Ascension thread

[Dragonmoon]

Hi, after a lot of months of abstinence I and my friends continue our immortal campaign.
I'm happy to see that Acension is almost finished. A little question.
An immortal character with more effects like fire and holy can combine them for example into a unique beam for double damage (half fire/half holy)?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi, after a lot of months of abstinence I and my friends continue our immortal campaign.

Howdy Dragonmoon! Nice to have you back.

I'm happy to see that Acension is almost finished.

Almost...

A little question.

Fire away.

An immortal character with more effects like fire and holy can combine them for example into a unique beam for double damage (half fire/half holy)?

No. The damage is always based on Hit Dice/Level. You can combine two effects (such as Fire Beam and Holy Beam) but the damage will still be the same as a single Fire Beam.

e.g. You could have a 50d6 Fire Beam or a 50d8 Holy Beam, but if you combined them it would create a 25d6 fire/25d8 holy beam.

You can multiply an effects damage with certain abilities, Like Telluric Effect.

 

[jedrious]

Howdy Dragonmoon! Nice to have you back.



Almost...



Fire away.



No. The damage is always based on Hit Dice/Level. You can combine two effects (such as Fire Beam and Holy Beam) but the damage will still be the same as a single Fire Beam.

e.g. You could have a 50d6 Fire Beam or a 50d8 Holy Beam, but if you combined them it would create a 25d6 fire/25d8 holy beam.

You can multiply an effects damage with certain abilities, Like Telluric Effect.

another idea not put into print?

 

[mercucio]

The Combat Mastery epic feat is not needed since there is a non-epic feat that does the same thing (Improved Combat Expertise in Complete Warrior)

Actually it's Superior Expertise, OGL, and from the Divine SRD.

 

[jedrious]

Actually it's Superior Expertise, OGL, and from the Divine SRD.

same exact feat, was renamed in Complete Warrior

 

[dante58701]

Improved Combat Expertise...it's one of my favorite feats.

On another topic...Elder Evils.

Has anyone seen this book yet, I have it and it has a new and interesting abilities.

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Hi, Uk. I've been away for far too long.

I am curious to know if Ascension is still slated for PDF release, or is it already available? Your ideas are absouletly awesome and are just shooting for with my homebrew.

I know you stated earlier (maybe in another thread) about converting material to 4E, but am also curious to know if there is enough backing for a 3.5 release. I'd give my left, well whatever, you don't nedd to know that much, but I'd really like to see Ascension as a 3.5 product.

 

[GQuail]

Do you have the Ascension pdf? If so the text won't change massively from 2.8 to the finished book.

As others have since pointed out, it's still not quite complete, though: jedrious' list may be "minor" for the most part, but it's a big list, and would affect some PCs more than others. And as they note, this...

The damage is always based on Hit Dice/Level. You can combine two effects (such as Fire Beam and Holy Beam) but the damage will still be the same as a single Fire Beam.

e.g. You could have a 50d6 Fire Beam or a 50d8 Holy Beam, but if you combined them it would create a 25d6 fire/25d8 holy beam.

...is one of those "ethereal comments on the message board" things, because I didn't pick up any hint of that in the book. So there's clearly still changes to be made and, since I find reading a hard copy much, much easier to actualy use at the table, that means printing out the whole thing for me. (well, printing out and switching those pages which have changed: but that could be a lot of pages depending.)

As for "I can't fit the pre-reqs in the tables": hmm, well, that's unfortunate but I suppose unavoidable with the list of pre-reqs, especially if you're aiming for a certain page count for the print copy. Still, considering that the ELH and D&DG manages to stick to their format (didn't they?) it's a shame that the table page here won't be quite as complete.

 

[Ltheb Silverfrond]

Well, to be fair, the ELH only introduced one new tier of feats; Ascension has 4...

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey jedirious mate!

another idea not put into print?

You know I could have sworn I had that in the book somewhere.

Consider it sorted...Edit...in fact I just added it.