NG vs. NE: Neutral Evil is Victorious!

[Greybar]

Gotcha. Same Move.

271:
Oeric calls upon some of his own magic power, and pushes forward to 85n75e.

Std: SLA: Protection from Evil
MEA: to 85n75e

 

[PJSlavner]

Cecilia does the same thing she did before, except she moves to 110N40E instead.

 

[Gansk]

Round 271: Oeric takes 11 acid and has 379 hp.

Oeric starts round 272 with 381 hp.

 

[Gansk]

I assume Oeric does the following:

Oeric makes a double-move through the acidic fog, making no attack other than to give Cecilia a really dangerous look as his draconic head emerges from the fog.

(MEA to 85n70e, MEA to 90n65e)

Oeric takes 7 acid and has 374 hp left.

Cecilia's turn in round 272.

 

[Greybar]

OOC: Yup, sounds good.

 

[PJSlavner]

Cecilia begins a spell, defensively.[sblock]SMV - It will be an acherai, which appears ten feet away from Oeric (to the south) so that Oeric will be flanked. If Cecilia has to take a 5-foot step to the east to flank, she will. The acherai will be given instructions to wait until after Cecilia acts. Cecilia will bite (5-foot step if necessary) with greater magic fang, undulate to cause nausea, then the acherai will release a cloud and back out of the Victory Zone. If Oeric does not approach Cecilia, then I will have to think about positioning.[/sblock]Your move, Greybar.

 

[Greybar]

Oeric's full mass emerges from the cloud then rushes into Cecilia!

MEA: to 95n60e (and now is no longer in the acid fog)
Std: Overrun attack (provoking AoO) to 105n40e, intending to end with Cecilia under him and prone.

OOC: The Overrun opens up questions that I don't know the answers to.
* can you make an AoO while involved in a Full Round casting action?
* can you Avoid an overrun while casting, perhaps just while making a "Vigorous motion" concentration check?
* if you're knocked prone while casting, but take no damage, should you have to make a "Violent motion" concentration check?
* wouldn't there be a similar issue if casters were Bull Rushed or Tripped?
Maybe there's a Rules of Game article on this?

 

[Infiniti2000]

Good questions.

* can you make an AoO while involved in a Full Round casting action?

No: "While casting a spell, you don’t threaten any squares around you."

* can you Avoid an overrun while casting, perhaps just while making a "Vigorous motion" concentration check?

Sure. There's nothing prohibiting this except maybe the Improved Overrun feat.

* if you're knocked prone while casting, but take no damage, should you have to make a "Violent motion" concentration check?

There's nothing that explicitly says you should make a concentration check, so it's up to the DM. A DC 15+SL Concentration check would not be out of line, though.

* wouldn't there be a similar issue if casters were Bull Rushed or Tripped?

It should be the same, yes. I agree with that.

Maybe there's a Rules of Game article on this?

I don't think so.

 

[PJSlavner]

I looked in RotG about AoO's, and there was nothing about this. I also checked the FAQ.

None of my answers matter, because Gansk is in charge, but here they are:

*I would not allow an AoO.
*I would allow avoiding the overrun, treating it as casting defensively.
*I am not sure how a snake could be knocked prone, but if it could, violent motion seems reasonable.
*Yes, there would.

Cecilia tries to avoid the overrun attempt.

 

[Infiniti2000]

*I am not sure how a snake could be knocked prone, but if it could, violent motion seems reasonable.

The FAQ says this about snakes:

Given that being prone means you are lying on the ground (Player’s Handbook, page 311), who can be prone? Can oozes be prone? What about creatures with no limbs like snakes? What about incorporeal creatures?

Anybody can be “prone.” Creatures that use limbs for locomotion can use a free action to drop prone and must use a move action to stand up again. Something with no motive limbs, such as a snake, can go prone or “stand up” as a free action. Such creatures might want to become prone to gain an Armor Class bonus against ranged attacks. (Although giving something like a gelatinous cube that option defies common sense and should not be allowed.) Officially, there’s an attack of opportunity any time a creature stands up. The Sage, however, heartily recommends no attack of opportunity when a snake or similar creature “stands up.”

Strangely, it then goes on to say that you cannot trip a snake. So, you can make a snake prone by overrunning it, but you can't make it prone by tripping it.

Up to Gansk.