OOC: Endur's Return to TOEE part 2

[Dalamar]

Bugbear wizards are even cooler

Especially when they keep the intelligence increase from being a grey elf

 

[Thanee]

Those additional 4 ECL are a bit of a downside, tho, when it comes to leveling up later... much later.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Endur]

Overlooked that -8 arrow Lylamwyn received. Darn elven wizards are fragile.

I thought maybe Belaver could use a held action to heal Lylamwyn, but Belaver was kind of busy.

 

[Xael]

Overlooked that -8 arrow Lylamwyn received. Darn elven wizards are fragile.

I'm playing an elven Cleric (/wannabe-Wizard/Mystic Theurge) in another game here with Strength and Constitution of 6. That's fragile.

He's also a Lich-wannabe, but that's a different matter...

 

[Seonaid]

Poor Xael! Toriah will mourn for Lylamwyn . . . later.

 

[Thanee]

Endur, how do you do charms in combat?

If the creature is currently being threatened or attacked by you or your allies, however, it receives a +5 bonus on its saving throw.

It's obvious enough, that they don't work that well, because of the save bonus, but it's mostly this part, I'm asking about...

Any act by you or your apparent allies that threatens the charmed person breaks the spell.

Is the charm immediately broken, if another opponent (an ally of the charmed one) is attacked, or only if the charmed one him-/herself is attacked/threatened?

What is 'threatened' in this context?

Can you make a charmed target attack his/her former allies with a successful opposed Charisma check?

Might be worth a try to charm the ogre, depending on how that works...

If Lenya cannot say how it works in detail, because it's new and all, that's ok, of course.
She will just try it then (telling the others to leave the ogre, if it succeeds), hoping to turn the ogre on Maridosen.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Endur]

Endur, how do you do charms in combat?

The answer is "it depends."

Charm is good at making someone friendly towards you. Its less useful at getting someone to change their mind or their actions towards others.

Getting the Ogre to stop attacking Lenya is likely.

Getting the Ogre to attack Maridosen is unlikely.

Getting the Ogre to stop attacking Raner is unlikely.

Since Lenya was blinded prior to her round 4 action, I have not yet resolved Lenya's round 4 or round 5 actions. You can still try to target an oppoenent with an invocation while blinded. How you attempt to target the opponent will determine the difficulty level.

 

[Thanee]

Hmm... she would probably blast the Ogre in the same round, since she still knows where that one is, having focussed on it prior to that round already. The Charm, being a targeted invocation, surely won't work without a line of sight, right?

Other than that, I got a question... is the Will save right?
Shouldn't that be Fortitude (if it is that necromantic Blindness spell, I'm thinking it is)?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Endur]

Hmm... she would probably blast the Ogre in the same round, since she still knows where that one is, having focussed on it prior to that round already. The Charm, being a targeted invocation, surely won't work without a line of sight, right?

Other than that, I got a question... is the Will save right?
Shouldn't that be Fortitude (if it is that necromantic Blindness spell, I'm thinking it is)?

Your right that it is a fort save. Still failed it, but you were a closer to passing.

Also targeting can work without a line of sight, but it is difficult (requires a listen check at +20 to locate the target).

 

[Endur]

After double-checking Belaver's actions, he did have an extra turn where he could have healed Lylamwyn's arrow wound. So Lylamwyn is still alive (and by a fortuituous event, having healed Lylamwyn of the arrow wound, Belaver is right next to Lylamwyn after the Ogre hits Lylamwyn to allow Belaver to heal Lylamwyn a second time).

Confusion often occurs in the fog of war. The fellowship thought Frodo was lost after he was speared by the Ogre and Sam thought Frodo was killed by the Spider.