OOC: Endur's Return to TOEE part 2

[Endur]

Paxus -- please add the description of the Ashbound feat to your character sheet in the Rogues Gallery

Manzanita and others who haven't posted in the current combat-- Please feel free to post multiple rounds of combat directions at once.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

Paxus -- please add the description of the Ashbound feat to your character sheet in the Rogues Gallery.

Done.

 

[Endur]

OOC: Sorry about absence yet again... I bought WoW...

Somehow, I suspected that was what happened.

 

[Xael]

Lylamwyn didn't have a spellbook when he gained 10th level, so can he add the spells he's supposed to gain in the "borrowed" spellbook (which, by the amount of spells, is probably either very large spellbook or two books)?

 

[Thanee]

We will also need some gold (and time) for Lylamwyn to make the spells in the book usable (the ones he didn't know already).

Havn't really checked the list... is there enough overlap so that Lylamwyn can prepare some decent spells right now?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Endur]

Lylamwyn didn't have a spellbook when he gained 10th level, so can he add the spells he's supposed to gain in the "borrowed" spellbook (which, by the amount of spells, is probably either very large spellbook or two books)?

Probably two books. Also, you can add the spell "Damning Darkness" (4th level wizard spell found in multiple supplements including BOVD and Lords of Madness) to the spellbook list.

 

[Endur]

We will also need some gold (and time) for Lylamwyn to make the spells in the book usable (the ones he didn't know already).

It takes gold and time to make a spellbook usable?

Havn't really checked the list... is there enough overlap so that Lylamwyn can prepare some decent spells right now?

That is a question for Lylamwyn.

 

[Thanee]

It takes gold and time to make a spellbook usable?

Yeah, the rules for wizard spellbooks are horrible.

It's way too expensive to write spells into one's spellbook (in our games we use 1/10th of the official cost) and even if you find another spell, there is no way you can use it, unless you write it into your own spellbook first. That can be explained at least (see below).

Wizard Spells and Borrowed Spellbooks

A wizard can use a borrowed spellbook to prepare a spell she already knows and has recorded in her own spellbook, but preparation success is not assured. First, the wizard must decipher the writing in the book (see Arcane Magical Writings, above). Once a spell from another spellcaster’s book is deciphered, the reader must make a Spellcraft check (DC 15 + spell’s level) to prepare the spell. If the check succeeds, the wizard can prepare the spell. She must repeat the check to prepare the spell again, no matter how many times she has prepared it before. If the check fails, she cannot try to prepare the spell from the same source again until the next day. (However, as explained above, she does not need to repeat a check to decipher the writing.)

Basically you need to transform a spell formula into your personal 'code' by writing it down on your own. That's the process of learning the spell for a wizard. For some reason, that noone can really explain, this process costs ridiculous amounts of gold, since apparantly ink and inkpen are not sufficient to write down your non-magical spell formulas into your non-magical spellbook. Anyways... Once you have done this and truely understood the spell, you can even prepare it from other wizard's writings, but need to succeed on a Spellcraft check (which is mostly a formality, considering that Take 10 is possible and the DC rather tame).

It probably should be possible to figure out another wizard's 'code' so completely, that you can simply learn the spells by studying them for a while. Only the Forgotten Realms have specific rules for that in Magic of Faerûn, called 'Mastering a Foreign Spellbook'. Takes easily a month or two, though.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Endur]

a spell she already knows and has recorded in her own spellbook

Arrgh! The underlined part goes against the whole theory of the D&D magical system. I understand why the D&D game designers put it in -- in a group with 2+ wizards, they want each wizard paying gp for fireball in their spellbook. The game designers thought they were closing a loophole in the rules, where a commune of wizards might share a single spellbook. But this violates the whole idea of having apprentices and others using the Master's spellbook. Sheesh.


Well, once you find Chymon the Red Dragon's new lair when you Return to the Temple of Elmental Evil, you'll find plenty of gold, since it has all of Chymon's treasure and all of your old treasure.

 

[Thanee]

Well, once you find Chymon the Red Dragon's new lair when you Return to the Temple of Elmental Evil, you'll find plenty of gold, since it has all of Chymon's treasure and all of your old treasure.

Lenya will not stop until that damn wyrm is dead (although that part is optional) and they have reclaimed their stuff, anyways.

Bye
Thanee