OOC - Graverended Grimoire (House Millithor in the City of the Spider Queen V)

Narcelia is finally updated. If it's okay, my wealth will come to a little over 760k because I sold the following items at half market. I actually screwed myself a little because I took just the enhancement values and halved that total. I also took the "flaming, or flaming burst" at the lower value of just flaming (it wasn't mine originally, so I'm not sure which it was). If you would prefer I do things differently, I will.

+1 studded leather armor
+1 buckler
Silver Dagger +1 (flaming, or flaming burst)
Rapier +1

If someone would check her over for me, that would be wonderful. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I'm not very good at mechanics. I have been working on this literally for hours, and I'm just too tired to look any more. :)

One thing: I did not get a house insignia. If that's a problem, the Matron gives you permission to purchase one for her. Believe me when I say that it will be thoroughly examined before being used, and if any treachery is found, the persons involved in the buying/selling/giving will be . . . punished.

Also, I did not put in a scourge for Narcelia, as I figure Isida should handle that.

I think all of my saves are one lower than they should be, but I can't figure out where the extra points went. I don't know; I'm sure I have other mistakes.

Isida: I don't know how Narcelia was originally created, which is why I don't have point values for her abilities. (I am not the original player.)
 
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Seonaid, if Narcelia was confusion as she was, you can rebuild her from the ground up if that will make it simpler (and cleaner). I would rather say that the scourge was lost in the scuffle somewhere along the way.

Dalamar, as we have characters coming out of our ears, if you want to go with a pair of slightly more powerful characters instead of a posse of weaker ones, that's cool.

Paxus, maybe you should try to carefully look at your leadership score so we can get a better handle on your cohort. Could you calculate that for me please?

Bro, I wrote the character Vo-Tarran in Legacy of the Dragons, the giant paragon unfettered. :)
 

I feel quite silly for failing to look at that before, though the PrC text doesn't mention it as a cap. Tierak's Leadership score is 18 for level, +4 for Charisma, possible +1 for special power (the ability to bind and summon the potential cohort, or simply her considerable political power), -2 for having a familiar, for a total of 20 or 21. That gives me a 14th or 15th level cohort; which shall it be?
 


Paxus Asclepius said:
Tierak's Leadership score is 18 for level, +4 for Charisma, possible +1 for special power (the ability to bind and summon the potential cohort, or simply her considerable political power), -2 for having a familiar, for a total of 20 or 21. That gives me a 14th or 15th level cohort; which shall it be?
Beg your pardon but she is also cruel, a drow after all, and she also has a special mount.

22 (15th level character)
Mount [-2] 20 (14th level)
Familiar [-2] 18 (12th level)
Cruel [-2] 16 (11th level)
Alignment [-1] 15 (10th level)
Great Renown [+2] 17 (12 level)
Special Power [+1] 18 (12th level)

I took massive penalties on Kilcif's cohort, including alignment, and being cruel. :(
 
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Brother Shatterstone said:
Beg your pardon but she is also cruel, a drow after all, and she also has a special mount.

22 (15th level character)
Mount [-2] 20 (14th level)
Familiar [-2] 18 (12th level)
Cruel [-2] 16 (11th level)
Alignment [-1] 15 (10th level)
Great Renown [+2] 17 (12 level)
Special Power [+1] 18 (12th level)

I took massive penalties on Kilcif's cohort, including alignment, and being cruel. :(

Ah, but alignment can be changed, having a mount AND animal companion is not listed as cumulative, and she's not cruel, just devoted to a viciously insane goddess. She's not going to beat her cohort, though she might do so to followers.
 

I don't think I want to rebuild Narcelia, but I will if you prefer it. When I took her over, it was fairly early in the campaign and Endur had me keep her as is.

Two things I would like addressed either here or in the first IC post are what, exactly, happens with House Millithor and House Morcane (together and/or separately) during the interim year and what the effect of not having a scourge does to Narcelia's reputation (and the House's reputation).

Also, I know this is your own game, but I really liked how Endur posted things that were happening outside of the PC's little world, but that had an effect on them (either immediately or in the future). It would be neat if that was continued somehow, for example little snippets of what's happening in the Demonweb Pits. I'm not sure exactly what you have in mind, but if you aren't planning for us to at least learn why Lolth was silent, that would be cruel and unusual. :)
 

Paxus Asclepius said:
Ah, but alignment can be changed, having a mount AND animal companion is not listed as cumulative, and she's not cruel, just devoted to a viciously insane goddess. She's not going to beat her cohort, though she might do so to followers.

It's all about perception... If you've beaten a follower then when you’re recruiting your cohort they could honestly think about them getting smacked around also.

But if you want to have a debate, friendly mind you, then I would do the fallowing.

22 (15th level character)
Mount & Familiar [-2] 20 (14th level) (you where right about this)
Cruel [*] 20 (14th level) (you say your chaotic evil drow priestess isn't cruel so we will remove this.) :p
Alignment [-1] 19 (13th level) (This stays, at least until the alignment has truly shifted, fair enough?)
Great Renown [*] 19 (13th level) (this goes, your not even cruel and your house was completely destroyed.
Special Power [*] 19 (13th level) (show what makes her so special in the FR setting?)
Failure [-1] 18 (12th level) (you lost nearly all of your great drow house and are branded a failure till you prove other wise.

How does that look? :)
 

Well, redesigning includes not considering the equipment the last incarnation of the character had (effectively we're all creating the characters again).
 

:confused: It seems to me as though some of us are creating characters from scratch, some of us are building old characters from the ground up, and some of us are kind of going from where we were.
 
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