OOC - Graverended Grimoire (House Millithor in the City of the Spider Queen V)

[Dalamar]

I don't own Underdark, so I'm unfamiliar with that template; if someone can email it to me or post it here, it might save me an extra level of Devoted Defender. The extra feat is a holdover from the original creature, which has four feats, but doesn't list one as a bonus feat; I'd assume that, if any feat is bonus rather than a mistake, it's Sunder (Improved Sunder in D&D), but I can always ditch Eagle Claw Attack.

The extra feat is because in Arcana Unearthed, everybody has an extra feat at 1st level.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

You forgot to add the bonus from masterwork thieves' tools to some skills.

Yeah, good catch. I know I would never had remember in game either...

But Endur posting scares me too. Not Irae though, she's a wuss. Or would be, if she didn't have that Epic Spellcasting... She's certainly more badass than in the module.

Its the fact that her levels have gone up even after her death and her undead death that have me worried... Then again he did post a certain drow ranger that never even go a mention in character.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

The extra feat is because in Arcana Unearthed, everybody has an extra feat at 1st level.

Of course! How could I have missed that?! Ignore the shattered, sobbing man with the Latin-sounding username; he is no longer all there.

 

[Serpenteye]

It seems everybody's getting Leadership... maybe I should jump on the bandwagon. My character does after all have the highest charisma in the group by a fair margin. If I pick Improved Leadership at lvl 21 I can have a 20th level cohort and some 500 followers. I would have to drop Maximize spell and wait a while for Epic spellcasting, but maybe it's worth it. Epic spellcasting is only useful if it's broken, else it's not worth the cost of developing the spells.
What do you think?

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Um... no one should be at epic level yet. Templates might push the ECL over 20, but no one should have over 20 class levels yet. And your ECL shouldn't be over 21.

 

[Serpenteye]

Um... no one should be at epic level yet. Templates might push the ECL over 20, but no one should have over 20 class levels yet. And your ECL shouldn't be over 21.

I know, I'm just planning ahead

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Ok, you scared me there for a moment.

If you want a cohort now... you can flesh out the cohort, but your followers will remain strictly in the background, cool?

What would your Leadership score be for your cohort (if you're getting him now)? And what kind of cohort did you want?

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Of course! How could I have missed that?! Ignore the shattered, sobbing man with the Latin-sounding username; he is no longer all there.

We've known this for quite sometime.

SE, welcome back. If you want leadership go for it but to be honest, my cohort isn't very powerful, and is mainly there for roleplaying... PA’s might be but it's both slow and stupid but due to LA on are characters are cohorts are held in place but little will hold your cohort in check.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

"When Cohorts Attack! Tonight on Underdark primetime! Watch rampant unchecked cohorts go wild!"

 

[Serpenteye]

We've known this for quite sometime.

SE, welcome back. If you want leadership go for it but to be honest, my cohort isn't very powerful, and is mainly there for roleplaying... PA’s might be but it's both slow and stupid but due to LA on are characters are cohorts are held in place but little will hold your cohort in check.

Thanks
I'm not sure, for either RP or PowerP reasons, wether I should get a cohort. I would give up a very powerful ability to get one.
You are right, my cohort would be more powerful than yours, but that's one of the few (and diminishing) benefits my character gets from not having an LA. You all already get some considerable compensation for your LA in the form of extra HPs.
After I reach 21st level (and presumably Epic Level Spellcasting) my rate of power-increase will become a lot slower, most of it will come in the form of disposable treasure (and LA doesn't affect that). Most epic feats after that are rather weak compared to what non-epic characters get. You, by contrast, will increase your BaB and/or your spellcasting ability until you too reach epic levels and get your handful of powerful feats in addition to your native abilities as a superior race. My character will be weaker, rather than stronger than the others in the group. It is only in the short term that my character has the potential to be more powerful than yours.
Leadership might be the equalizer I'll need, but I'm not decided.

Leadership might not be apropriate for a character who would have no political power in the House or the party. How could I justify playing the greatest leader in the group while being a follower?

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Isida, my Leadership score would be 20 (lvl) + 12 (cha), but I'd get no benefit for anything above 25 with only the Leadership feat. I could get a 17th level cohort (20th at 21st level with Epic Leadership).