(OT) Any vegans out there?

[Dinkeldog]

I'd ignored this thread for a while, but got bored and decided to read it, because my wife is a vegan. But now, I have to say that after this comment, Piratecat is officially my hero.

Yeah, stand in line.

 

[Thorntangle]

We've developed methods for mass-production of animal flesh, no longer having to rely on such primative methods as spears, and scavanging dead carcases.

You've hit the nail on the head as to why I don't eat that stuff anymore. That industry is just nasty, brutish work for all involved. It's bad for the animals, bad for the people who don't get paid jack to work all day on dangerous production lines, and it's bad for the people that eat it.

I might start eating meat again after we start to vat grow it and engineer out the unhealthy stuff. I can see vat grown meat coming relatively soon, but vat grown meat engineered to be healthy is a little further out.

 

[Dinkeldog]

Oh, and the PETA website has a list of good vegan cookbooks.

--Zerakon the Game Mage

If you run into a Gelatinous Tofu Cube, use Burning Hands, slice and dice it, mix with vegetables, serves 400.

Welcome aboard, Zerakon. Just as a friendly reminder to everyone here, if you bring up PETA in a context that mentions their political and social views, I will not be amused.

 

[Tsyr]

You've hit the nail on the head as to why I don't eat that stuff anymore. That industry is just nasty, brutish work for all involved. It's bad for the animals, bad for the people who don't get paid jack to work all day on dangerous production lines, and it's bad for the people that eat it.

See, for me, it's different. Unfortunatly, my views on the first two points are off topic for this thread, and would probably result in it being locked.

As for the third, if you choose to not eat meat for health reasons, fine. I can respect that. I wouldn't do it, but I can respect that.

I might start eating meat again after we start to vat grow it and engineer out the unhealthy stuff. I can see vat grown meat coming relatively soon, but vat grown meat engineered to be healthy is a little further out.

I sure hope I never see it. I have more ethical qualms with growing chunks of an animal to eat than slaughtering an animal to eat. The former is just... disturbing, on a number of levels.

Besides, that whole "engineered to be healthy" stuff... Blech. No offense, but that's sort of like Diet, Caffine Free Coke. It's not coke. It's a pale shadow of coke that in no way takes the place of coke. I would rather not drink coke that drink that stuff, it's so bad. You can't tamper with the basic structure of something and have it stay the same.

If your objection is the mass-market production lines, as others have said, there alternatives. You can get meat from local farmers fairly easily in most places, for example. Or you can kill it yourself. I've hunted for several years now, and my family has raised chickens and such. There you have control over how the animals are raised and slaughtered, if you like.

 

[Danzauker]

Just a little note.

I had a friend that used to study medicine at university.

She rounded her money by tar time working in a Chemical company, and she was to oversee the mineral and protein integrators.

Well, she told me the raw materials for those products are taken from dried dead animals.

Logical after all. If you are making something to supply people of chemicals most other people find aplenty in dead animals, well, where do you think chemical industry is going to get them?

 

[Thorntangle]

Logical after all. If you are making something to supply people of chemicals most other people find aplenty in dead animals, well, where do you think chemical industry is going to get them?

Yep, common knowledge among most strict vegetarians. The meat industry is economically dependent on selling every molecule of an animal carcass.

 

[Azlan]

I sure hope I never see it. I have more ethical qualms with growing chunks of an animal to eat than slaughtering an animal to eat. The former is just... disturbing, on a number of levels.

I dunno. Is it really unethical to grow headless, feetless, featherless chickens, like rows of eggplants? Sure, it seems creepy. But, really, these bioengineered "chickens" would be totally unthinking and unfeeling, and no more a living creature than an eggplant. And it's sure a lot less cruel and brutal than raising chickens in crowded, filthy pens, and then chopping off their heads when it's time to "harvest" them for their meat.

Besides, that whole "engineered to be healthy" stuff... Blech. No offense, but that's sort of like Diet, Caffine Free Coke. It's not coke. It's a pale shadow of coke that in no way takes the place of coke. I would rather not drink coke that drink that stuff, it's so bad. You can't tamper with the basic structure of something and have it stay the same.

Um, since when is Diet Coke engineered to be healthy? It's engineered to taste good, while still being extremely low in calories.

Being a diabetic, I've been drinking Diet Coke (and other diet soft drinks) for over 15 years now. At first, I didn't like it much, but what other choice did I have? Water? I mean, water is great, and I tend to drink a lot of it between meals. But water with a meal is bland.

Now, after all these years of drinking Diet Coke (I now like it a lot, but only if I cut it with a lot of ice), I find the taste of regular Coke not quite right.

 

[Azlan]

Originally posted by Kerrwyn
I'd ignored this thread for a while, but got bored and decided to read it, because my wife is a vegan. But now, I have to say that after this comment, Piratecat is officially my hero.

Huh? I already knew Piratecat was a really nice guy, but now I learn he's a vegan... ?

Feh. He is neither a pirate nor a cat.

 

[Thorntangle]

Huh? I already knew Piratecat was a really nice guy, but now I learn he's a vegan... ?

No, he's not.

 

[PowerWordDumb]

Yep, common knowledge among most strict vegetarians. The meat industry is economically dependent on selling every molecule of an animal carcass.

Rather than seeing that as a slam against the "meat industry" as it appears you intend, I'd view that instead as the ultimate in business acumen. A certain segment of the market swears off your original products, so you simply change the format, and they will beat a path to your door to buy them while continuing to feel content with what they think they're avoiding. The fact that some of the more vocal of them are also quite smug about the whole thing just seals the deal.

Personally, I applaud them.