(OT) Hmmm Star Wars II Seen I Have!

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Hey, how's this for a change. I didn't really LOVE Episode I, but I would watch it over Jedi ANY day of the week. After Jabba and with the exception of the last 20 minutes, Jedi has to be one of the most boring movies I have ever seen. Yes I am a Star Wars fan and I think Empire is the best of them all by a very long distance.
 

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Okay, I'm back from watching it. My turn. Warning. I have a lot of gripes. Keep in mind this is star wars, so I am starting from the pinnacle and working down.

In my mind, there are three (major) things that killed Ep I.
  1. The pacing
  2. Anikan Crusher
  3. Jar Jar

While 2 and 3 are not so much an issue now, I think AotC still suffers from #1. Though the dips into mediocrity are not so deep, they seem pretty noticable.

Jar Jar is there, but not so in-your-face annoying. And in a move of poetic justice, we can now think of Jar Jar whenever anyone asks the question "whose stupid idea was it to hand power to the chancellor anyways?"

Anikan still annoys you, but it's a "Charlie X" sort of annoyance vice a "Wesley Crusher" sort.

The other factor that stunted my enjoyment was the acting. I actually think the acting was better in Ep I. Liam Neeson is a much better jedi master than McEwan. It just doesn't suit him as well. Likewise, I never felt the sort of emotion from Anikan that they were obviously trying to suggest he had.

There was not enough of a group dynamic and not enough focus on the core characters. Part of this links back to the acting and chemistry... it just wasn't there like it was with ep 4-6. But part of it is plotting. It felt a little more like a documentary.

I really think I might have enjoyed the movie a bit better if the Count Douku/Trade Federation thing hadn't have been spoiled for me. Ah well.

Good things: yoda. It is as good as you have heard.

Storm... ahem, CLONEtroopers being the calvary and sympathetic? That came off very well, I think.

Another thing that came off well. I pretty much agree with what everyone else has said about the Ani/Padme scenes being a big stumbling block for the movie... heck, I was expecting them to start strolling down the beach and have an announcer chime in and try to sell you a collection of favorite love songs. However, I don't think it is that bad... with a culling of a few scenes, it could have been tolerable. The biggest problem was that it ran across the grain with the rest of the movie. While they are slowly trying to build up a romance on site A, over at location B Obi-Wan is tracking down a threat to the empire. However, like I said, I thought it came off fairly well in the end. The clincher scene before they get chained up took me off guard... even though I knew it had to happen.

Jedi fights were cool. But as much as I hate to say it, they were better in Ep I. There, I said it. Flame me! I expected more of these scenes to make my heart jump into my throat. Only one did: Yoda.

"Agressive Negotiation" was funny. It needed a bit more humor to fit the SW feel, I think.

Lee was good.

That's it. No big uniting thesis. Better than AotC overall, but worse in some ways. Worse than the original trilogy. 4/5

In other news, I did like a few additional glimpses into the SW universe, especially the diner. It made the universe seem more gamable.

In still other news, I also have the revised SW RPG. Very nice brush ups... just wish they had done it right in the first place.

In still other news... the Minority Report movie looked like a great spycraft setting.
 
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Saw "Clones" and liked it a whole helluva bunch.
I give it 8/10
No movie is perfect so it doesn't get a 10 and then I thought the flow of the movie was sort of off so it loses another point. Overall I enjoyed it. I hope we don't have to wait 3 years for the next one.
 

>"In still other news... the Minority Report movie looked like a great spycraft setting."<

Wow i was think the same exact thing.


Anyway, i liked this one far better than Phantom menace, i also have to say that in addition to the big Y Sam had some kick moves during the fight and i liked when anakin faced off against Douku. Over all the original Star wars is still my favorite, i never did like empire and attack o the clones rocked. I can't wait to see EP3.
 

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I saw Ep2 today. Before I continue, I should say I like Ep1, and will go to my grave believing alot of the backlash against it has very little to do with the movie itself, and more to do with changing times and well....bandwagonitis.

Anyway, on to Ep2:

It rocked. It was Awesome. If i had to rank my SW movies, the ranking would be like so:

ANH/ESB
AOTC
TPM
ROTJ

and if I watch AOTC more it might knock one of those top two out of their spots.

Little things I liked:

Yoda kicking arse
Mace kicking butt and looking good while doing it

Little shades of things to come, MAJOR foreshadowing.

The darker feel, very ESBish.

Anyway I'll stop now before I accidentally let slip with a spoiler.
 


I really loved the movie. There were a few things that could be better, but overal: a great movie. Especially the last half hour. Great!
9/10
 

Saw the movie tonight... was surprised the theater wasn't sold out!

Movie was pretty good 8 out of 10
The love story thing was way too drawn out.
Yoda's fight was not very good in my opinion... he comes hobbling in on a frikkin' cane and then he's suddenly bouncing around like a pin ball... okay what ever. Yoda's use of the force on the other hand was top notch.
Why do the Jedi still have Anakin as a padwan??
The child actor for Bobba Fett was way worse the Anakin in the first movie.

But the rest of the movie and the action was great. Obi Wan was the best character and Padme was really good eye candy.
 

I really enjoyed it..

Personally... I took EP1 for what it was.. the building blocks for EP2...Much of the plot devices for EP2 were started in EP1...and EP3 will build on that which is done in EP2.

Where as the 4,5,and 6 can almost all stand alone.

I love the way I can watch how Darth Sidious is playing two hands in each films so that no matter what happens, he will win in the end.

And...just to mention.. unlike us.. .the characters in the movie have not seem what has gone in the past.. or are privy to all the information.. and because they don't have Character Knowledge (oddly apt that this is on a RP'ing page) nobody suspects who Darth Sidious really is.

but...Yay Yoda.. you da man...or short green thing...
I so wanted him to say "On bring it..mmmm"
 

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