[OT] Nostradamus nonsense and the Antichrist

[Mal Malenkirk]

Nostradamus nonsense and the Antichrist

I caught the end of a discovery channel show on an update of the Nostradamus mythos updated for 9/11.

There was some weird looking guy with a an ugly beard who was presented as some sort of expert on Nostradamus. Amongst other nonsense he was explaining how one must interpret the quatrain by decyphering the words. I kid you not, the guy was removing and adding letters to the words in order to get meaning out of them. And these were translated quatrain! You translate words and then you rearrange the letters and I can find you deeper meaning in the recipe for a spaghetti sauce...

The inevitable part about the three antichrist came about and of course Oussama bin Laden is the brand new candidate to star in the role of the third antichrist in the next Broadway play called ''Delusion! The Musical''. Just what we needed; more hysteria. Bin Laden is sent by Satan to start WWW3... Who finance these idiots? Company producing canned food?

And while we're talking about antichrist, why the heck is Napoleon the first antichrist? He was an ambitious general and politician who was at the head of one of the most powerful state of the era; France. He wanted to spread this power. Other powerful state didn't want him to. And so there was war. Napoleon is no different then any other leader of this era except he was greater. He was a greater strategist than his colleague, he had greater ambitions, he rose to greater height and in the end he fell harder.

200 years later a few obscurantist anglo-saxons dubbed him the Antichrist. Why not Cromwell instead, huh?

Heck, I'm just rambling. I don't know what it is about Nostradamus and similar subjects that always tick me off. But there, I feel a little better.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

From what I gather, that Nostradamus-9/11 connection turns out to have been an internet hoax.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

From what I gather, that Nostradamus-9/11 connection turns out to have been an internet hoax.

That was the hoax;

"In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city..."
"In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
two twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning"

It circulated just after the attack and was dated 1654 (nearly 100 years after the death of Nostradamus, actually).

It's an hoax because this isn't an actual quatrain. Nostradamus never wrote that.

The show I'm talking about was instead pulling real Nostradamus quatrain and was trying really hard to make them fit 9/11. They found one that talked about hollow mountains, for example. Hollow mountain; this gotta be a skyscrapper, right? They also pulled one about a volcano destroying a city; hey, when the towers fell and there was smoke everywhere, didn't it look like a volcano? That kind of crap.

 

[jgbrowning]

people just want to believe in magic.


joe b.

 

[Dinkeldog]

I believe in magic.

There might even be some truth to Nostradamus' prophecies. I don't think this is it, though.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Debunker working on Nostradamus have establihed a clear link between his prophecies and his immediate environment. It looks like he was simply looking around him to find inspiration.

For example; much ado has been made about the quatrain talking the ''New City'' at ''45 degree''.

Many have assumed that this is New York City, a city that didn't even exist at the time of Nostradamus. How impressive! But also how americanocentric... New York is at roughly 40 degree. Meanwhile there are several cities in France called Villeneuve (literally Newcity) all of them much closer to the 45th degree of latitude than New York is. After all, the 45th degree crosses the south of France.

I read an article where dozens of such examples where pointed out. The most amusing match involved a quatrain about a mountain that is most likely the one that Nostradamus could gaze on when he looked through his private office's window but sadly I forgot most of the detail about that one.