Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Ryujin]

Which is exactly why I chose "one true Scotsman", rather than "no true Scotsman"

 

[Maxperson]

Which is exactly why I chose "one true Scotsman", rather than "no true Scotsman"

LOL Glad to have walked right into that for you!

 

[Umbran]

It would be great if the response to every statement of preference and experience was not the inane, “That’s one-true-wayism!” It’s a joke of a fallacy at this point. A bad joke of a bad meme. Not every opinion or experience expressed equals one-true-wayism. When someone says, “This is the only way to do it!” then, and only then is it one-true-wayism.

I don't know, and don't want to speak to, any specific discussion that inspired this, but I can say...

There is a high correlation between this sort of complaint, and:

1) Finding that the original assertion was actually phrased as an absolute statement, and
2) The assertion that people should "just know" that you don't mean it that way.

This is the internet, with plain text. You have to do a little bit more work to make what you mean clear, as folks don't have tone of voice or facial expression to pull that extra information from. The burden to present yourself as you wish to be seen is on you.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Magnum Classic made me immediately think of:

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Never ALWAYS go full Magnum.

 

[trappedslider]

And done, It's a M1126 Stryker ICV

inspired by Honey Badger (callsign)

 

[Ryujin]

I don't know, and don't want to speak to, any specific discussion that inspired this, but I can say...

There is a high correlation between this sort of complaint, and:

1) Finding that the original assertion was actually phrased as an absolute statement, and
2) The assertion that people should "just know" that you don't mean it that way.

This is the internet, with plain text. You have to do a little bit more work to make what you mean clear, as folks don't have tone of voice or facial expression to pull that extra information from. The burden to present yourself as you wish to be seen is on you.

I think that the reverse is also true; people need to take a moment and consider if the person meant the statement the way that you read it, or if you're applying your own emotional context to it.

 

[Umbran]

I think that the reverse is also true; people need to take a moment and consider if the person meant the statement the way that you read it, or if you're applying your own emotional context to it.

Sure.

But, the major point here is that if you make explicit statement that you are, for example, stating your own, or your table's, personal preference, you can always point to that when a reader goes off course.

If the author does not make the basic efforts to supply the context, they lose the right to complain when the reader does not magically guess the right context.

 

[Ryujin]

Sure.

But, the major point here is that if you make explicit statement that you are, for example, stating your own, or your table's, personal preference, you can always point to that when a reader goes off course.

If the author does not make the basic efforts to supply the context, they lose the right to complain when the reader does not magically guess the right context.

And I disagree. That misunderstanding is a 50/50 proposition.

 

[Deset Gled]

Deleted.

 

[Velderan]

And I disagree. That misunderstanding is a 50/50 proposition.