Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Ryujin]

Online text based chat does seem to encourage arguments.

I think you're probably correct here. Text based chat lacks tone that allows you to convey emotion or certain feelings. It's hard to express things like sarcasm over text, for instance. It can turn what might be a harmless quip in regular conversation, into down right fightin' words if read the wrong way.

With the virtual nature of it.. I'm not sure. The anonymous nature of the internet probably gives a lot of people the courage to say things they probably wouldn't say to someone face to face.

The one thing about forums though, is it does tend to feel like a smaller space. There's less of a feeling of "We're all strangers here" that you get on other areas of the web, like Reddit, or X.

I've been posting here about a year. ENWorld has probably thousands of members, but I have gotten to the point where I recognize two... maybe three dozen of you by your avatars, usernames, and even the way you chat. While I don't know if this makes this a small community, it makes it kind of feel like one, and I think a lot of forums have similar vibes. This can probably lead to some bad habits. For instance, if there's one particular user you feel like is a bad actor, or maybe you've have a bad experience with them in the past, you're likely to be less charitable with them in the future due to that pre-existing bias and maybe more prone to argue.

I miss the old days of the internet when some rando who was peeing in your virtual pool, thinking that he's anonymous, could be chased away with a simple private email stating his location and phone number, that you could grab with a few simple tools.

 

[Thomas Shey]

People can just be wrong without being disingenuous. I know because I've been wrong before (I didn't like it, but I got better).

I didn't say anything about disingenuous, nor did Snarf in the part I was addressing.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Joking aside, I think that people confuse and conflate arguing with discussing.

I think that the structure of internet forums tends to lead to argument. And don't get me wrong- I am not a saint, and can get as argumentative as the next mook.

But generally, I think discussions, where the purpose is to talk, learn, and have a good time? That's why I am here. I get my fill of arguments every Thanksgiving, thank you.

Sure, but at that point you presumably aren't disagreeing, which is what I was referring to.

 

[Deset Gled]

I didn't say anything about disingenuous, nor did Snarf in the part I was addressing.

In that case I clearly was, and continue to be, confused about what you are trying to address.

 

[Umbran]

Joking aside, I think that people confuse and conflate arguing with discussing.

And, even when they do know the difference, people are bad at recognizing when they have elided from discussing into arguing.

"I'm not arguing! They are just so entirely wrong that I must refute everything they say..."

 

[Umbran]

I didn't say anything about disingenuous, nor did Snarf in the part I was addressing.

Snarf said:
"If you announce that anyone who disagrees with your position is lying or disingenuous, you should not be surprised if people aren't very interested in having a discussion with you."

You said:
"I know you're mostly just making a joke, but if, to one degree or another, you don't think the latter is true (the first sentence), what are you even arguing about?"

It is not clear if "the latter" is,

1. "disingenuous"
2. "people aren't very interested in having a discussion with you"
3. something else

 

[trappedslider]

This might be worthy of it's own thread. But my real concern here is Nic's age. I can get behind the idea that this Spider Man isn't a teenager, but Cage is in his 60s.

I thought about, but wasn't totally sold on a thread by itself, I also thin kit would be cool to be done in B&W like his appearance was.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

In other news,

Amazon using affiliate links to turn the entire internet into an advertising platform for it, especially around Prime Day, is pretty gross. It's one thing when bloggers or sites like Kotaku do it -- I get the revenue needs -- but I get queasy when major newspapers get in on the act as well.

 

[Scribe]

In other news,

Amazon using affiliate links to turn the entire internet into an advertising platform for it, especially around Prime Day, is pretty gross. It's one thing when bloggers or sites like Kotaku do it -- I get the revenue needs -- but I get queasy when major newspapers get in on the act as well.

The number of 'big players' is hilariously small I think.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The number of 'big players' is hilariously small I think.

I'd really hoped our cyberpunk dystopia would be more interesting than the whole internet deciding to scream at me each October about best-ever prices on bidets and Android smartwatches.

Can't I get some cybernetic implants or a really cool motorcycle or something?