Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Dannyalcatraz]

There is no clear and known link between garum and Worchestershire sauce, which is produced very differently from garum.

Worchestershire sauce was created by, you guessed it, John Lea and William Perrins, and commercialized in 1837. Where they got the recipe is unknown, but they claimed various inspirations from India and Asia.

I actually watched a documentary on it a couple years ago. They were experimenting with different sauces, and forgot one vat for a while.

They eventually found it again, opened the vat, and tasted it. They did not die; it became Worcestershire sauce.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

So, last year I donated $5 to my local representative (Andy Kim) because I liked the guy since January 6th. It was a one-time donation because I'm not made of money, and I have never donated to any politician previously. And I'm 55 years old, so that's a lot of campaigns.

I apparently made it to the Democrats' "Major Donor" like because I've received from 6 to 20 emails every single day since then. I usually delete them without reading them because, really?, up to TWENTY EMAILS A DAY‽‽‽ Seriously‽

Anyway, the most recent one made me laugh out loud. "Your record really stood out" read the subject line. "When I looked through our past survey responses, I was very impressed with your level of enthusiasm. In fact, you were more active than 90 percent of Democrats in our database!"

I will reiterate, aside from the one- time donation, I have never responded to any of their emails, in any way, shape, or form.

I’ll just say that I made a donation to Greenpeace in the 1990s. That’s the extent of my “political” donations.

For some reason, I get fundraising emails from every major US politician you can name, on both sides. In fact, this morning, I got a text message poll for voters in WY.

I’m in north central TX.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

In one of the first Anthony Bourdain episodes of No Reservations, he said something that really stuck with me:

The best food, across the world, is almost universally poor people's food. The rich people ate "high on the hog," taking the best parts of the animal or the crops for themselves, stuff that typically doesn't need a lot of work to make it delicious.

As a result, the poorer people were stuck with pig's feet and turkey necks and far worse stuff. And they had to figure out how to make it delicious.

That’s quite true.

Some of what was once poor people food might surprise you, though. Like lobster.

 

[MNblockhead]

That’s quite true.

Some of what was once poor people food might surprise you, though. Like lobster.

And what was once rich people food is now poor people food. Not so long ago only the rich could afford over-processed food.

 

[DrunkonDuty]

Ooh, I love me a 12" diameter pumpkin tart on Thanksgiving!

Is that 12 feet or 12 yards?

That’s quite true.

Some of what was once poor people food might surprise you, though. Like lobster.

I have a story about this. For most of my life I have lived on or about the old poverty line. One of my go-to cooking options was lamb shank.* Cheap and tasty, especially when slow cooked. I went and lived overseas for a few years. When I came back lamb shank had gone from being a cheap, almost throwaway cut, to trendy and expensive.

There I was just back from living OS, unemployed and broke, finding I couldn't even afford to cook a lamb stew. I was, to put it mildly, miffed.



*This was a while back, I don't eat much meat any more.

 

[Staffan]

That’s quite true.

Some of what was once poor people food might surprise you, though. Like lobster.

Here in Sweden, there are stories about how farmhands in some regions had contracts stating they were not to be fed salmon more than thrice per week (the veracity of these stories is apparently contended, though). Today, salmon is, while not super fancy, at least on the fancier side of fish.

 

[MNblockhead]

Is that 12 feet or 12 yards?

Does the double quote after a number no longer mean inches?

 

[DrunkonDuty]

Does the double quote after a number no longer mean inches?

Sorry, old DnD joke about map scale. 12" could mean either 12 feet, on an indoor map, or 12 yards on an outdoor map.

 

[Reynard]

In one of the first Anthony Bourdain episodes of No Reservations, he said something that really stuck with me:

The best food, across the world, is almost universally poor people's food. The rich people ate "high on the hog," taking the best parts of the animal or the crops for themselves, stuff that typically doesn't need a lot of work to make it delicious.

As a result, the poorer people were stuck with pig's feet and turkey necks and far worse stuff. And they had to figure out how to make it delicious.

Never forget that in New England, lobsters were originally prisoner food.

EDIT: ninja'd by @Dannyalcatraz

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Look at a good soul food restaurant menu, and it will be mostly “poor people” food.

Gumbo was made with whatever was on hand, with certain key ingredients (like bay leaf, okra and filé), with generous amounts of rice to stretch it. As a result, if you know someone who is a real Creole or Cajun cook, if they have 1 gumbo recipe, they’ll have several. (I personally have at least 6 major variations)

But what was once a soup scrounged up from whatever was on hand has become a dish that might cost $300 to make (in a large pot).*










* we were stationed in Stuttgart, Germany for 3 years, and we couldn’t get most of the seafood we’d normally use in a typical gumbo, and Mom was never a fan of chicken & sausage gumbos. So she used what seafood she could find…lobster. Let me tell you, it was quite good.