Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Well, the day has apparently come where @Snarf Zagyg was too subtle.

Is that the sixth or seventh seal? I assume the apocalypse must be imminent.

 

[RealAlHazred]

(I've made the argument myself that in many ways, Hero is actually an easier system to learn and remember than a lot of D&D variations, because the amount of one-off design bits you have to keep track of is smaller, but that argument rarely goes over well).

I've always said Hero is front-loaded -- you have to make a few decisions early on, but then spending your experience points in sessions is generally easy. D&D is back- loaded. Since every feat and class ability breaks some role, your character sheet is basically a list of exceptions that grows longer as you play the game. Every time you level up you have to decide what other exceptions are going to get added, that you have to remember.

 

[overgeeked]

Well that’s the quickest, easiest ignore I’ve ever done.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I've always said Hero is front-loaded -- you have to make a few decisions early on, but then spending your experience points in sessions is generally easy. D&D is back- loaded. Since every feat and class ability breaks some role, your character sheet is basically a list of exceptions that grows longer as you play the game. Every time you level up you have to decide what other exceptions are going to get added, that you have to remember.

That sounds mostly right (though really, most of the front-loading is even in games with powers; there are some general rules applied with skills, but they're usually not vastly different. This can change a bit once Talents get into play).

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Aaand we're back to explicit gatekeeping in less than eight hours.

 

[Scribe]

I clearly dont read enough here to find these 'good' threads.

 

[dragoner]

Not Ernest Borgnine!

 

[Maxperson]

I love when the forum gets all prophetic on me.

 

[Maxperson]

Great point.

Except ... maybe that's the way they actually are, and it explains why they aren't playing games.

It's my experience that when people complain about how bad all the games they have played in the past are, there is always one common denominator to their stories of woe.

Yeah, my bad. Maybe I shouldn't play in as many groups.

 

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