Psionic PrC Statement
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Piratecat
Sesquipedalian
I statted up a high lvl one last night, and I'm not too impressed; A lvl 16 character (cleric 3, psion 3, combined PrC 10) has a BAB of +8, base saves of fort +7, ref +5, will +13, and average hit points of about 59 before con bonuses. Add Multiple Ability Dependency, and even with the numerous powers available it doesn't seem ideal at first glance.
Since Kristivas has actually played with one, I figure that I'm missing a few obvious advantages. Can someone please flag them for me so I don't miss them?
Not that I'm making this as a bad guy or anything.
Since Kristivas has actually played with one, I figure that I'm missing a few obvious advantages. Can someone please flag them for me so I don't miss them?
Not that I'm making this as a bad guy or anything.
ForceUser
Explorer
Well, with regard to the BAB comment, I think it's important to note that any character that chooses the MT route is resigning himself to the "fragile arcane caster" role despite his cleric levels.
Although I haven't seen a game higher than 15th level, I'd say that the combo-caster excels in one area only--having a large number of spells per day. For a villain, this is not ideal, since he's not likely to encounter a group of PCs for more than one or two encounters per day (assuming he survives his first encounter.) In fact, I'd imagine that a combo-caster would be hard to differentiate from a weak single-classed caster to the average PC. On the other hand, if the NPC in question has loads of minions and time to prep, he'll be able to bring the combo-caster advantage to bear by unloading lots of buffs upon his forces prior to combat. If I were building one of these guys, I'd make sure he had Practiced Spellcaster (nuker class) and a staff with offensive ability.
Although I haven't seen a game higher than 15th level, I'd say that the combo-caster excels in one area only--having a large number of spells per day. For a villain, this is not ideal, since he's not likely to encounter a group of PCs for more than one or two encounters per day (assuming he survives his first encounter.) In fact, I'd imagine that a combo-caster would be hard to differentiate from a weak single-classed caster to the average PC. On the other hand, if the NPC in question has loads of minions and time to prep, he'll be able to bring the combo-caster advantage to bear by unloading lots of buffs upon his forces prior to combat. If I were building one of these guys, I'd make sure he had Practiced Spellcaster (nuker class) and a staff with offensive ability.
If you try to qualify with the Psychic Warrior, you eliminate the multiple stat dependencies. (Both cast with Wis)
You can qualify at Cleric 3/ Psiwarrior 4
Before going in you have BAB +5, 7d8+con Hp (Average 35+con) Base saves: +7 fort, +2 Ref, and +4 Will
At the end of 10 levels of Psionic Theurge, you:
gain +10 d4 hp, +5 BAB, +3 Fort, +3 Ref, +7 Will (total: +10/+5/+11)
You can cast 7th level Divine spells, and manifest 5th level Psychic Warrior powers.
It's not The Most Horrible Thing Ever (tm), but it's interesting
Now, if you do stick with Psion (or Wilder, since Cha helps Clerics too), you'd have great will saves![:]](http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png "Devious :]")
, qualify one level earlier (which means you're not losing anything on the +1/3 levels saves progression) and could qualify for the Arch Psion Prestige Class
But if you were going to do that, I'd think you combine Psion/Wizard or Wilder/Sorcerer with cerebremancer and mix and match Arch Psion with Arch Mage
By the way, Psionic Body combined with psionic feats easily makes up for lost hit points
You can qualify at Cleric 3/ Psiwarrior 4
Before going in you have BAB +5, 7d8+con Hp (Average 35+con) Base saves: +7 fort, +2 Ref, and +4 Will
At the end of 10 levels of Psionic Theurge, you:
gain +10 d4 hp, +5 BAB, +3 Fort, +3 Ref, +7 Will (total: +10/+5/+11)
You can cast 7th level Divine spells, and manifest 5th level Psychic Warrior powers.
It's not The Most Horrible Thing Ever (tm), but it's interesting
Now, if you do stick with Psion (or Wilder, since Cha helps Clerics too), you'd have great will saves
, qualify one level earlier (which means you're not losing anything on the +1/3 levels saves progression) and could qualify for the Arch Psion Prestige ClassBut if you were going to do that, I'd think you combine Psion/Wizard or Wilder/Sorcerer with cerebremancer and mix and match Arch Psion with Arch Mage
By the way, Psionic Body combined with psionic feats easily makes up for lost hit points
