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Rank the Marvel shows

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
You can also include the Netflix ones (Daredevil etc). So that’s Wandavision, Falcon & The Winter Soldier, Loki, and Hawkeye. Plus Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist. Oh, also Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter.

If a show has multiple seasons it should be listed as one show, not as the individual seasons.
  1. Hawkeye (so far)
  2. Daredevil
  3. Wandavision
  4. Jessica Jones (first season was so good, but the second lowered the average)
  5. Luke Cage (such a good villain killed off halfway through!)
  6. Punisher
  7. Loki
  8. Falcon & the Winter Soldier (I think this was hurt by COVID and could have been much better)
  9. Agent Carter
  10. Iron Fist
  11. Agents of SHIELD
 
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pukunui

Legend
Hmm. I haven’t seen any of the Netflix shows.

I’m going to go with:

1) Hawkeye
2) WandaVision
2) Loki
4) The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Yes, WandaVision and Loki are tied for 2nd place. That is not a typo.
 

DeviousQuail

Adventurer
1. Wandavision
2. Daredevil
3-T. Loki
3-T. Jessica Jones
5. Falcon and the Winter Soldier
6. Punisher
7. Luke Cage
8. Iron Fist

Until Hawkeye finishes a season I can't rate it. It's trending toward a podium finish though. Overall 1 and 2 are neck and neck. The 3s are close behind. 5 is comfortably middle. 6 and 7 are fine but not things I'd re-watch. 8 had things to like but was let down in many ways.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
  1. Hawkeye (so far)
  2. Wandavision
  3. Falcon & the Winter Soldier
  4. Punisher = Daredevil
  5. Agent Carter
  6. Jessica Jones (first one was great, but second meh)
  7. Luke Cage (great character but stupid villain writing)
  8. Loki
  9. What...If? (I assume Morrus wasnt including animated shows but heh)
  10. Agents of Shield
  11. a blank screen
  12. Defenders
  13. Iron Fist
Edited after Enevhars comment
 
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No Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter or that awful Inhumans?

Anyway, the only ones I can properly rate are the D+ shows, as they are the only ones I have watch every episode of so far.

1 and 2 - tie between Loki and WandaVision
3 - Hawkeye
4 - Falcon and Winter Soldier
5 - What If?

All five of those are at least a B+ for me, so no duds so far. What I saw of Daredevil and Jessica Jones was good. Agents of SHIELD was real hit or miss, depending on the season.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
No Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter or that awful Inhumans?
Sure, feel free to include them!
Anyway, the only ones I can properly rate are the D+ shows, as they are the only ones I have watch every episode of so far.

1 and 2 - tie between Loki and WandaVision
3 - Hawkeye
4 - Falcon and Winter Soldier
5 - What If?

All five of those are at least a B+ for me, so no duds so far. What I saw of Daredevil and Jessica Jones was good. Agents of SHIELD was real hit or miss, depending on the season.
 

Bayushi_seikuro

Adventurer
I'm liking Hawkeye so far, but of the shows I've watched..

Wandavision and Loki were both very solid for me, I think. I think I'd edge Loki a bit towards first just because I loved the concept more and the weirdness.

I didn't watch most of the Netflix shows - couldn't get into them - but I did watch the Defenders and really enjoyed it. I knew the characters so I don't feel I missed out on the origin story stuff.

I didn't watch the other shows. They just didn't grab me at the time, but maybe I'll go back later. I think Agents of SHIELD was hurt because it felt like the hype was 'this is going to connect into the movies!' but due to the way tv schedules shake out vs movies, it was hard to actually get that solid continuity. Now, if it had been released during this Multiverse era, I think it would work 'better' (?) since it doesn't have to directly connect Coulson's trip to Tahiti into anything MCU YMMV
 

I want to start by saying that first 7 shows on my list are all top-notch TV; the margins between them are paper thin. I’ve given them an order because, well that what the thread’s about.

  • Jessica Jones. Gets the top spot because all 3 seasons were very good. I think season 2 was the least good but still very good.
  • Daredevil - Seasons 1 & 3. Two excellent, edge-of-the-seat seasons.
  • Agent Carter. A criminally underrated show. Tells a great story while examining the impact of the post war period and the return of all the men on women’s roles in the workforce.
  • Wandavision. Such a great premise. (Yes, I’m aware of its comic book origins.) Really well done. The ending was a little too busy. Don’t think we needed the Vision on Vision battle but even with it it’s still very, very good.
  • Luke Cage - Season 2. Two great villains opposing our Hero of Harlem with an excellent (even if it was unintended) downbeat ending to our hero’s journey.
  • Loki. LOVED the aesthetic of it. Some great moments of comedy, action, and romance. My only real concern is that, going forward, there’s no way it’s going to be able to live up to the twisting timelines plot it has begun.
  • Luke Cage - Season 1. Such a great show that failed to stick the landing. Swapping out Cottonmouth for Sidewinder was a serious mistake. A real Dickensian twist of a coincidence (I effin hate Dickens) that undercut the drama they had spent the rest of the season building. Total writing fail. I strongly suspect executive meddling. But everything up to that point was great.
  • Iron Fist. Firstly – Ironfist should not have been a white guy. (A sentiment with which Davos agrees.) But, since the decision was made to keep him as such, the writing did the right thing of making him an entitled jerk. Not a complete jerk. But certainly given to some jerky, entitled moments. This should have given him the chance to grow as a character. That didn’t really happen.
  • Falcon & Winter Soldier. Yes, I’ve ranked this below Ironfist. Its main problem was that it tried to make a political point without actually making any political points. This confused the theme and plot. But great characters. I look forward to seeing more of Falcon, WS, and (other) Agent Carter. And of course, USAgent.
  • Agents of Shield - Season 1. I think the best part of the show
    (Ward’s betrayal)
    was only due to the events of the wider MCU. But I can’t prove that. So this one gets points for one of the best WTF!? moments I’ve ever had watching a TV show.
  • Punisher. Objectively this was good TV. (Okay, I only watched the first 2 or 3 eps. But what I saw was good TV.) I just don’t like the character, sorry folks. Also I have residual irritation for Punisher co-opting season 2 of Daredevil.
  • Daredevil - Season 2; aka Punisher - Season 1 and/or The Defenders - Season 1. This whole season was a mess. Absolutely reeks of executive meddling. I imagine it went something like this:
Exec: “We need to introduce Punisher before his show. Doesn’t matter that Daredevil, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones all did just great introducing themselves in their own shows. Punisher needs half of this season. Oh and the other half can help build the back story for the Defenders or something.”

  • The Defenders. Sigh. More executive meddling? A mess and a desperate attempt to put all 4 Netflix Marvel characters into on show because that’s what the Avengers did. Doesn’t matter how awkward it makes the show.
  • Agents of Shield – the rest of the seasons. This is a show that went downhill season after season. I think I managed to get through 4 seasons before giving up. Not totally without some good points, Mockingbird and Hunter come to mind. But otherwise pretty standard TV.


Haven’t seen What If? Or Hawkeye as yet.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
This is hard, and the first four are all fairly close...

Loki - It was an odd start and I am way burned out on time travel and Kang stories in the 616. But I liked it anyway and this made me care about Loki!? Owen Wilson was great (although he reminded me a bit of Dr. Cox in Scrubs).Sylvie better be back in Season 2. The infinity stone portrayal was odd.

Wanda Vision - Except for the first 10 minutes of episode 1, how her name was revealed, and white vision just flying away, this was great. I can't decide if part of my loving it is just how much better than it was from the comics that inspired it.

Falcon and Winter Soldier - This one surprised me most. It had a lot of things from the comics and incorporated them well. The one that fits in with the movies the most I think.

Hawkeye - The others really changed as they went along, so this could go up a lot still. The source Fraction mini-series was fun but Hawkeye was portrayed as stupid and too lethal based on his comic history. Hailee is great.

What If? - Great standalone stories that really nail the feel of what the comic What Ifs were like. The team up really didn't do it for me and how the infinity stones worked cross dimension was odd.

Agents of Shield - Had it's moments, but by far the bottom of the list.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Ranked
Wandavision - really appreciated the mystery and unfolding of what was happening. Enjoyed Darby & Jimmy as well. I expect to I will enjoy this even more after some Phase 4 movies are out and we see what it set up. Was very amused by the different sitcom generations and things like the "Agatha All Along" song. But the Big Bad was so transparently bad - I guess you needed someone like that to distract from that the Big Bad could have been/is Wanda.
Loki - Sylvie double plus good. Lots of mystery. But Loki himself seemed faded - low powered, wasn't really able to trick people, etc. Where is the powerhouse who told us mankind wanted to be subjects and almost made us believe it? That's on the writers - Tom Hiddleson did an A+ job acting, and showing change over time for the character. The big bad was a bit Deux ex Machina for me, even if it was setting up Phase 4. That said, I'm excited for the cliffhanger at the very, very end. And Loki and Sylvie have some unfinished business.
Hawkeye - So real and honest. Solid. But missing the mystery and reveals that had us glued when a new Wandavision dropped.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Good, and I love the new players who were introduced.
Daredevil (season 1) - First taste of Netflix MCU, unburdened by a need for lack of violence or gore. And with great casting and action.
Agents of SHIELD (early seasons) - Good ensemble cast, like the action, lots of WOW moments - if this came out after Falcon & the Winter Soldier it would have felt "on-par", but for when it came out it felt spectacular.
What ...If? I quite enjoyed these, but the (mostly) episodic nature kind of inherently will put them behind highly serial shows for me.

Good enough but didn't finish
Something that I didn't finish or go back to seems like it needs fall below the shows that pulled me back.
Agent Carter - quite enjoyed what I saw, will probably go back and finish it at some point.
Jessica Jones (season 1) - quite enjoyed parts of it, but we drifted off watching it and I haven't had a pull to go back to it. Perhaps because I didn't have a huge empathy for Jessica Jones herself.
Agents of SHIELD (later seasons) - there were some good parts. And then there were increasing parts that weren't. Hey, I'll take Kyle MacLachlan as a positive.

Didn't see (purely imagined order)
Daredevil (season 2)
Luke Cage
Punisher - Not my cup of tea.
Iron Fist - warned away, specifically about the fight scenes which was part of what made Daredevil good.
Defenders
Inhumans
 

GreyLord

Legend
Well...I'd put it probably as...

1. X-men Animated Series
2. Avengers - World's Mightiest Heroes
3. Spiderman - The animated Series (90s)
4. G.I. Joe (the original series from the 80s).
5. Spectacular Spiderman (animated)
6. Transformers (original Series...Gen 1)

Wait a second...you don't count the animated TV series!???

You've discounted the Best one's already!

(though some are harder to find than others, X-men, Avengers and the Spiderman...or the top 3 I think are all available via Disney+ these days).

PS: I believe they are coming out with a continuation of X-men soon, called X-men 97 or something. Not sure if they can continue the magic of the original series or not (tried the X-men comicbooks recently, I stopped many years ago as the writing went downhill along with the art, but someone said to give them another shot again. They are absolutely crazy these days, far too much for my old blood...so...not my type of comic anymore with some of the zany plotlines...but if it helps sells comics...whatever works. Too many world changing events all at once IMO though). I suppose it depends on whether they stick to the older 90s type storylines (Age of Apocalypse, House of M, etc) or go with the modern storylines for their episodes.

Still, with it coming out in the future, I would imagine this puts it in light of a current Marvel series???
 


Greg K

Hero
I haven't seen any of the Disney+ stuff or Agent Carter, but here is my ratings for those I have:
1. Daredevil
2. Punisher (a very close second)
3. Jessica Jones
4. Luke Cage

----- drop----
5. Iron Fist. The writers took some interesting elements of a badly written comic (I own the tradepaper back of the earliest stories) and reworked them into an enjoyable show (even my mom watched it). The downside is that Finn is not convining as a martial artist. He does not move like someone trained in martial arts let alone a master. His fight scenes were painful to watch. As for Iron Fist being white, that did not bother me, but it made me want a live action Shang-Chi even more (I also want to see a live action White Tiger (Hector or Ava Ayala))
6. Agents of SHIELD. I initially enjoyed it, but lost interest. I tried coming back a few times, but could stay with it very long.
------huge drop---------
7. Defenders: As someone wrote, a hot mess, but I thought it had a few enjoyable moments. It just made me more disappointed that it was not Gargoyle, Valkyrie, and the rest of the original New Defenders era comic book team.
 
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Agents of SHIELD whips way around in rankings depending on the season. The one where a computer scientist uses an evil magic book to let his AI create a Matrix-style simulation of an alternate reality where Hydra had won, and where said AI is defeated by Ghost Rider, was great. It sounds ridiculous, but it really worked.

But the season with the Inhumans was kinda meh, aside from the fact that it finally gave us a super-powered SHIELD agent in the form of reformed Mary Sue and all-around bad-ass hacker spy Daisy Johnson, aka Quake.
 

Stalker0

Legend
I can't take any list seriously that has Iron Fist ahead of Agents of Shield. I get that AoS had some problems....but lower than Iron Fist???!! That show made my eyes bleed.

So I have not seen Agent Carter, and I don't trust any marvel show until I see its season ending, so I won't rank Hawkeye yet. Therefore:

1) Daredevil - Great acting, best villain on TV to date, great fight scenes, pure awesome.
2) Wandavision - Probably the biggest gamble in terms of format, but it was actually done really well. Actually brought the Scarlet Witch into her own, gave us a catchy theme song, very good. I'm not comfortable with how "off the hook" Wanda is so far for her villainous actions (and make no mistake, she is one of the core villains of the show to me), but I reserve full judgment until I see how they handle her in Multiverse of Madness.
3) Jessica Jones: I'll agree with Morrus on this one. Season 1 is beautiful, but it really drops off after that, though the remaining seasons are watchable.
4) Agents of Shield: I get that some of the bad seasons are pretty bad. But all in all I really liked this show. Had some great actor chemistry, went into some really interesting directions, had one of the best betrayals of all time (definitely the best marvel betrayal to date).
5) F&WS - This is my "meh" bar. The show is "fine", not good or bad. It just felt like time spent.
6) Punisher - Similar to F&WS, didn't like it or hate it, just killed time.
7) Loki - So Loki is an interesting one for me. On the one hand, the plot was interesting, cool sets, it was a fun ride. My issue with the show is two fold:
  • A lot of the plot was made at Loki's expense. This was not the cool, suave, scheming Loki we have come to know and love. He bumbles his way through the show, and seems so anemic I think Hawkeye could have taken him 1 on 1. Sylvie was a very cool character, but again a lot of her coolness came at the expense of making Loki look like an idiot.
  • The overall plot feels WAY too over the top for the tv show format. The plot of this show nullifies everything else going on in the MCU, its literally the only thing that matters. We went from this massive battle of omnipotent infinite stones -> infinity stones in a drawer. That is just not ok. I can work with a show that is just whatever, but this show actually screws with the entire MCU in a way that is hard for me to swallow.
8) Luke Cage - All of the "defender" type shows had a pacing problem, but I really felt it in Luke Cage. The show is sloooooooow, as cool as it can be at times, it takes episode after episode after episode to get anywhere. Binge watching is the sole reason this show has any legs, if people had been forced to watch this week to week it would have died on the vine.

100) Iron First - This show quite simply....is an embarrassment to the Marvel name. Season 2 is "meh", season 1 is a dumpster fire.
 

Yes, that's my issue with the Loki show. It was just Tom Hiddleston as a sad guy with a bit of magic. It wasn't Loki the trickster. Did he actually even, y'know, trick anyone during the entire show? Maybe kinda sorta when they got on the train, but that's it.

I kept waiting for the twist, the big reveal that he'd figured all this out super early and was conning everyone. Hell, I thought maybe he'd stolen the Time stone in episode one and was going to use it for shenanigans. Nope. He just played it straight.
 

AliasBot

Explorer
As far as the (MCU, or MCU-adjacent) ones I've seen:

1) Cloak and Dagger. Second season was a bit weaker than the first, and it's possible it might have lost its luster somewhat if it had gone on longer, but on average it was really damn good. I'm still sad it got canceled, but the fact that nobody else has even brought it up probably speaks to the level of popularity it achieved.

...after that, there's a big drop-off - everything else clocked in at some level of "meh" for one reason or another, so they're all pretty close together.

2) Agents of SHIELD. Had its ups, had its downs. Nearly dropped it once (halfway through season 3), would've dropped it after season 6 if the next one wasn't the last one, but it had stretches where it was quite good - the back half of season 1, parts of season 2, most of seasons 4 and 5. That's enough for it to come out on top of the "meh" pile for me.

3) What If...? It was fine, but it never felt like it delved as deep into the wild possibilities as the premise seemed to imply, so it came off as weirdly flat. I'll be watching season 2 when it releases, so it at least has that going for it.

4) Agent Carter. Season 1 was good, season 2 wasn't - it's been long enough since I watched them that this is more a matter of vibes than specific details I could confidently point to, but that's the gist.

5) Runaways. This is the point of the list where we hit the shows I never got past season 1 of - in this case, I did mean to, I just...never quite got around to it. Main knock on it that I can remember was that it felt stretched a bit too thin, trying to meaningfully develop both the kids/heroes and parents/villains. Which is a pity, because I rather liked the development that the kids did get. (If it got canceled after one season, it'd probably be ranked higher, but "I didn't care enough to keep watching" is too much of a demerit for me to rank it above shows I finished.)

6 and 7) Jessica Jones and Daredevil, which I'm addressing together for convenience's sake. Again, only watched one season of each - when Daredevil season 2 released, I realized I just didn't care enough to invest the time into watching it, and that extended to the rest of Marvel Netflix. Were season 1 of both of these shows compelling? Yes. Were they of good technical quality? Probably. Did I enjoy watching them? In retrospect, not particularly.
 

The Lizard Wizard

Adventurer
1 WandaVision
2 Loki

3 What if...?
4 Falcon and the Winter Soldier
5 Hawkeye (so far, hard to judge something unfinished, could be higher depending on the next 2 episodes)

There's not a great difffence between the top 2 or the bottom 3.
 

Vael

Hero
Rather than attempt a full ranking, I'm going to do a tier list.

S-Tier: Loved the show, have rewatched several episodes
- Wandavision: This is the only one I've gone back to repeatedly. It ain't perfect, the ending was rushed and didn't quite stick the landing, but I quite enjoyed it.
A-Tier: Enjoyed the show, but haven't found the need to revisit
- Agent Carter, Loki, What If?,
B-Tier: Perfectly serviceable, but there's a few flaws that I can't overlook
- The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
C-Tier: Fine, I guess, but there are significant flaws, like pacing issues (Netflix, looking at you)
- Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Agents of SHIELD
D-Tier: Didn't care for it
- Defenders
F-Tier: No.
- Iron Fist

Unranked because I haven't watched them:
- Punisher, Hawkeye
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
This is hard, and the first four are all fairly close...

Loki - It was an odd start and I am way burned out on time travel and Kang stories in the 616. But I liked it anyway and this made me care about Loki!? Owen Wilson was great (although he reminded me a bit of Dr. Cox in Scrubs).Sylvie better be back in Season 2. The infinity stone portrayal was odd.

Wanda Vision - Except for the first 10 minutes of episode 1, how her name was revealed, and white vision just flying away, this was great. I can't decide if part of my loving it is just how much better than it was from the comics that inspired it.

Falcon and Winter Soldier - This one surprised me most. It had a lot of things from the comics and incorporated them well. The one that fits in with the movies the most I think.

Hawkeye - The others really changed as they went along, so this could go up a lot still. The source Fraction mini-series was fun but Hawkeye was portrayed as stupid and too lethal based on his comic history. Hailee is great.

What If? - Great standalone stories that really nail the feel of what the comic What Ifs were like. The team up really didn't do it for me and how the infinity stones worked cross dimension was odd.

Agents of Shield - Had it's moments, but by far the bottom of the list.

Ok, so Hawkeye #5&6 (especially Yelena) bumped that up to #1 for me.

1) Hawkeye
2) Loki
3) Wanda Vision
4) Falcon and Winter Soldier
...
5) What If?
...
6) Agents of Shield
 

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