Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[shawnhcorey]

Star Trek is known for changing canon. The one of the first shows had Sulu and his away team marooned on a planet because the transporter failed. If the Enterprise had shuttles, the away team could have been easily picked up. But shuttles came later in the show.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Star Trek is known for changing canon. The one of the first shows had Sulu and his away team marooned on a planet because the transporter failed. If the Enterprise had shuttles, the away team could have been easily picked up. But shuttles came later in the show.

Well, giving the time of the show creation, maybe everything wasn't thought out yet.

 

[shawnhcorey]

Well, giving the time of the show creation, maybe everything wasn't thought out yet.

Ditto.

 

[Hussar]

The only thing right now with the show, that is sorta hurting it, is the writing. Following by the production editing and production itself. Will love to enjoy, but these mishaps are growing.

Mishaps? What mishaps?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Mishaps? What mishaps?

Cannot confirm directly, but some folks are saying that some scenes are off, and there is a question of cramming stuff in example--Picard's brain condition is terminal Like that should be put later in the season, instead we got it in Eps #2. It is the pacing, editing of scenes, nuances of the clothes to the period, scripts talk for characters not vetted properly. It is the small things that can bloom into bigger problems. For me, I just watching it for Picard only, guarded against the rest. And keeping it short....in description.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

So... anyone else here wonder, if it's just Dahj and Soji (and perhaps the Synths) that are made twins, or if they're suggesting that Data and Lore count as well. Then B4 would have had a twin too... (Also, does that mean that there was a B1 and a B2 as well, and Data was actually the SIXTH Soongian Android?)

 

[Truth Seeker]

So... anyone else here wonder, if it's just Dahj and Soji (and perhaps the Synths) that are made twins, or if they're suggesting that Data and Lore count as well. Then B4 would have had a twin too... (Also, does that mean that there was a B1 and a B2 as well, and Data was actually the SIXTH Soongian Android?)

B4 is dismantled and is a less superior model.
LORE is disassembled and was put away somewhere out there, in a unknown place.
DATA is totally destroyed
DATA's Daughter is dismantled, stored somewhere--had total cascade failure.

The creator Doctor Soong also created DATA's mother Juliana, his former deceased wife, with the condition placed in her, if she ever found out that she is artificial, she will immediately shut down. Status unknown. She was considered a superior model to the previous ones.

He never built twins, always singular.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

B4 is dismantled and is a less superior model.
LORE is disassembled and was put away somewhere out there, in a unknown place.
DATA is totally destroyed
DATA's Daughter is dismantled, stored somewhere--had total cascade failure.

The creator Doctor Soong also created DATA's mother Juliana, his former deceased wife, with the condition placed in her, if she ever found out that she is artificial, she will immediately shut down. Status unknown. She was considered a superior model to the previous ones.

He never built twins, always singular.

I know that"s how the earlier story went. I was asking if anyone thought that they might retcon it - and what people thought of the idea. I mean, it's got it's inconsistencies (as most retcons do) but it's not impossible to retcon that Data and Lore are twins and B4 could have one too.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I didn't say it was nice, just that it was possible. I mean, what's your alternative explanation for what happened? Murdering them without revoking citizenship doesn't make it better.

A writing mistake.

 

[Dire Bare]

I know that"s how the earlier story went. I was asking if anyone thought that they might retcon it - and what people thought of the idea. I mean, it's got it's inconsistencies (as most retcons do) but it's not impossible to retcon that Data and Lore are twins and B4 could have one too.

Soong's process did not require twins. Data and Lore look identical, but aren't really twins, in the sense they were created at different times. And of course B-4, an inferior model created before Data and Lore, also looks identical to his two younger "brothers". Maddox studied Data to develop his own android process, but it is different than Soong's. Why does Maddox's process create twins? Perhaps we'll learn more . . .