Star Wars: Andor


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Strongly disagree as I find him to be 1 and f the more interesting characters
But hey I liked Dirty Harry , most Clint Eastwood western characters, most Charles Bronson characters, Han Solo, John berenthal, the boba fett character, Loki character, jack sparrow etc
And yes there are times I want that person to be near me in real life. For example brad Marchand is a hockey player but many don’t like him because he’s a jerk on the ice. Same with John McEnroe came of like a jerk. These people are interesting to me and it wouldn’t bother me if they sat at my dinner table
I’m confused on the timeline and why some are saying that the crashed ship people were dying from poison in the air. The scavengers that radio Andor didn’t seem concerned.
The Death Star -the twins-kenobi-solo-Andor-the bothans. Now in kenobi/Andor the senate still exists but it’s disbanded during Star Wars but mothma is already leading the rebellion? Luke is 18+ during new hope but under 10 during kenobi so is it a 10 year timeline
 
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Strongly disagree as I find him to be 1 and f the more interesting characters
But hey I liked Dirty Harry , most Clint Eastwood western characters, most Charles Bronson characters, Han Solo, John berenthal, the boba fett character, Loki character, jack sparrow etc
Sure, I liked those guys, because they had charisma, unlike Andor, who is just has a sulk.
 


Celebrim

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After watching episode 4, again, amazing show with whip smart dialogue and a commitment to showing and not telling. I'm amazed the team at Disney that has been churning out such dreck managed to make a show that looks this good, is this well written, and is this ambitious. I'm blown away. It's too slow paced for the movie format, but it's movie quality in it's production, in it's sound design, in it's acting. Just incredible show and blowing me away compared to anything Disney has released under the Star Wars logo (except for, perhaps unsurprisingly, "Rogue One").

I haven't heard anyone talk about this anywhere, but is anyone else loving the stress and tension in this show? Like intellectually I know that Cassian and Mon Mothma are going to survive the show, but emotionally the whole time I'm watching I'm expecting sudden tragedy. When you are watching The Mandalorian emotionally you know there is basically zero chance The Mandalorian is going to be placed in any real difficulty and that no matter what happens it is going to work out. There is no tension because you have basically superheroes fighting mere mortals. This is a show about a mere mortal. The tension and the anxiety is pervasive in the show and you can't help but have your skin crawl watching the show. Everyone in the show is feeling abject terror almost all the time, and if they ever aren't experiencing abject terror it's because they are clueless and about to get destroyed. The tension is so bad that you even have sympathy for characters that you should have no sympathy for just because of the anxiety everyone is in. The music. The facial expressions. It's so intense.

Drop whatever you are doing as a nerd and watch this show.
 


Celebrim

Legend
Another slow episode, IMO. I'm liking the story, but - perhaps - 24 episodes in total is a bit much.

No. 24 episodes is just enough.

One of the things I disliked about The Mandalorian is that for being a show about being a bounty hunter, it stopped being a show about a bounty hunter around episode 3. I would have liked a little slower pacing that allowed us to spend more time with Mando just being a bounty hunter before getting derailed on his quest. It wasn't terrible that we skipped over that if the had no ideas for making a good show about bounty hunters, but as a guy actually running a Star Wars bounty hunter campaign I am positive there is plenty of room for a great show about bounty hunters that is still exciting despite having small stakes.

Star Wars is a setting that is interesting and available to tell stories in that aren't about The Chosen One and wizard-knight superheroes. In fact, in some ways it's more interesting when we focus on the characters that aren't wizard-knight superheroes, because it's more human and less simple ego gratifying wish-fulfillment. One of Star Wars strengths right from the start of the franchise is the feeling of being a lived in universe where things get dirty and things break and people have ordinary lives despite the extraordinary setting.
 


This is a bildungsroman. Andor hasn't yet acquired his cool yet. His mentor has that coolness and charisma. Andor is learning.
Han Solo was born cool. Andor gets vaporised by the Death Star long before he gets close.

Joking aside, it's down to the actors, and Diego Luna just aint entertaining to watch. Skarsgard and Shaw act him off the screen. The furniture puts in a more interesting performance.
 
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Celebrim

Legend
Joking aside, it's down to the actors, and Diego Luna just aint entertaining to watch. Skarsgard and Shaw act him off the screen. The furniture puts in a more interesting performance.

I find the character intense. One of the "tells" not "show" moments happens in Episode 4, and it's earned, with one of the would be rebels conceding in an argument about whether to accept "Clem" onto the team something like, "He has brass. You can see that, but..." And yeah, I think Luna has been perfect and Cassian Andor as a character is one of the best editions to the universe we've had a long time. We know he's going to end up being a smooth operator. He's not oozing charisma right now because he's playing his cards close to his chest and he's new to the game. I love that they show his intelligence by the fact he doesn't talk. I'm sure we'll see him turn on the charm when the time is right.
 

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