I really hope they're not backtracking from The Last Jedi and making Rey a Skywalker descendant. Let the character stand on her own merits. not just because of some shoehorned-in heritage.
When was it ever that not anyone could become a hero in Star Wars? Han has no special connection to previous heroes. Obi Wan was just some random Jedi, not the heir to a long blood line of Jedi. (Because in the prequels, there are no blood lines of Jedi, the Jedi are against marriage and romantic relationships for Jed.)This. If they cave to the people that hated TLJ and undo it’s legacy, I’m out. Anyone can be the hero. That’s the point of the last movie. If they reverse that, then this whole trilogy has been pointless BS.
This. If they cave to the people that hated TLJ and undo it’s legacy, I’m out. Anyone can be the hero. That’s the point of the last movie. If they reverse that, then this whole trilogy has been pointless BS.
When was it ever that not anyone could become a hero in Star Wars? Han has no special connection to previous heroes. Obi Wan was just some random Jedi, not the heir to a long blood line of Jedi. (Because in the prequels, there are no blood lines of Jedi, the Jedi are against marriage and romantic relationships for Jed.)
Heck, if you just look at the original Star Wars movie, Luke is just some farmboy from a third-class world. The whole "son of Skywalker" thing and the "Anakin Skywalker a force virgin birth" was invented later. It's hardly a defining characteristic.
If they want to make the whole "anyone can be a hero" theme stronger, what they should have done is have a story about someone that wasn't born force sensitive and learns to master the force anyway. Because so far we only have people handed force powers by fate, no one worked to have them. And that is truly limits, it basically tells you: "Hey, if you weren't born special, then there is nothing you can do." (Well, at least not with the force. Obviously Han became a hero in the original trilogy without being force sensitive.)
[MENTION=6716779]Zardnaar[/MENTION] feel free to start more Star Wars threads, but I’m not interested in arguing with diatribes about how terrible you think TLJ is.
Most polls and twitter threads and such I’ve seen show more people putting LTJ in their top 3 than at the bottom and the only metric by which it “underperformed” is “compared to TFA”. By every other possible metric it hit it out of the park.
And no, they don’t have to give in to fans. Fans don’t own franchises.
All anyone has to do to know if the new movies are good is bring a 4 year old.
If the kid leaves excited, jumping around and swinging an imaginary lightsaber, then the movie’s good.
It’s the same as it was for the original ones. It’s the only metric that should really matter.
Disney likes their money. Also not hard to please a 4 year old.
Right. It’s impossible to please fans who are much older and who don’t even agree on what they want, but expect the movies to be written for them.
Disney is far better off focusing on winning new fans who don’t come into it with decades of expectation. People who will accept a movie for what it is rather that what it “should be”.
Sadly, such a view often seems to elude adults.
[MENTION=6716779]Zardnaar[/MENTION] feel free to start more Star Wars threads, but I’m not interested in arguing with diatribes about how terrible you think TLJ is.
Most polls and twitter threads and such I’ve seen show more people putting LTJ in their top 3 than at the bottom and the only metric by which it “underperformed” is “compared to TFA”. By every other possible metric it hit it out of the park.
And no, they don’t have to give in to fans. Fans don’t own franchises.
I'm starting to get the sense that Zardnaar didn't like The Last Jedi. Just a hunch, though.
Most of what I've seen in the past half a year is that hype for Star Wars has gone more to a meh level.
People are just not excited about Star Wars in general.
There are the Hardcore Star Wars lovers...and then everyone else.
the Hardcore Star Wars lovers seem to be enthralled...but everyone else...simply does not care anymore.
There's nothing left to care about.
With 4 year olds...it's not the 4 year olds...it's anyone who buys toys...and unfortunately the toy market (and probably the rest, but I just have a little idea on the toy market) is down right now in regards to Star Wars. Disney killed it in that arena. Luckily...Marvel is popping and makes up for it.
Still...if you WANT a good metric...it's not the 4 year olds...look to see how something did in China.
Star Wars is sunk in China right now...and that's at least 1/4 if not 1/3 of the money already lost.
Want excitement...see how to make it succeed in China. That can turn a movie that is just meh in the US to actually making a profit worldwide.
Let's see how the excitement gets in China over this. Toy releases can also predict popularity. There should be some idea of how it might do with sales in November. If Star Wars Toy Sales appear to be doing great, that could be a good prediction of it doing well. If it seems like the toys just aren't moving...that would probably be a bad sign.
It could do well, it could do poorly. I don't know. I think that something needs to be done to get people out of the 'meh' they feel now towards Star Wars or it's going to be a more meh type of showing at the theater. The hype train has just begun for episode IX.