Volabit said:I agree 100%. My point is that a rogue can't use any form of cover that may or may not appear from allies and ranged attacks. I was pointing out how it doesn't work and shouldn't be a concern for stealth checks. The cover from allies is perhaps only a mechanic used to represent how hard it is to shoot through another baddies space to get to the target behind more then a rogues reason to hide. Clearly you can see that person behind them, nothing changes that, I think its just there to make the attack harder.
You can say that as often as you want, but according to the rules, Stealth doesn't work the way you would like it to. There's nothing in the rules that says a rogue can't use cover given to him from allies when hiding. If he can hide behind a small tree, he can hide behind his fat-ass dwarf buddy. Whether this is broken (probably) is another question -- I have no problem with errata or house rules on the issue, but I do have a problem with saying that *by the rules as written* the rogue can't use allies for cover.
Why wouldn't your interpretation invalidate the rogue hiding behind a tree? After all, the tree doesn't give him cover on his turn, he's not being attacked.