The Batman - Official 4K Trailer (2022) Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz | DC FanDome 2021

[Mercurius]

Meh. Watching this trailer gave me a distinct feeling of, "Been here, done that. Do I need to do it again?"

I agree that it feels too soon since the Nolan trilogy for this to have any impact, but I'm speaking as a Gen Xer. Maybe younger Millenials and Zennials will be drawn in, but I won't rush to see it.

I mean, it is a similar feeling I have for MCU Phase 4. I was never gung-ho, but I probably won't get excited until they announce the Silver Surfer and X-Men, though I'm intrigued about Moon Knight (Oscar Isaac!).

But with MCU, where my feeling is "how many more CGI-spectacular scenes and kinda funny one-liners do I want to endure?" with Batman it is, "Can they really bring new elements of edgy noir gloom?" In both cases it seems tapped out, and I'd like to see a new approach.

 

[Imaculata]

I think every new actor tackling the role, and every new director, is a chance for it to be very different.

Remember that when Nolan made Batman Begins, people were kinda bored with Batman too. Batman and Robin had pretty much killed everyone's excitement about any new Batman film. And yet Nolan's films ended up being the golden standard of Batman that a lot of people now look up to.

Every new actor may surprise us, just as every new director may surprise us.

 

[Mercurius]

I think every new actor tackling the role, and every new director, is a chance for it to be very different.

Remember that when Nolan made Batman Begins, people were kinda bored with Batman too. Batman and Robin had pretty much killed everyone's excitement about any new Batman film. And yet Nolan's films ended up being the golden standard of Batman that a lot of people now look up to.

Every new actor may surprise us, just as every new director may surprise us.

I'm open to being surprised, but the trailer looks a bit like a Nolan fan-pic, with an emo edge due to Pattison. Maybe I'm just getting old and groggy.

 

[AtomicPope]

I love the aesthetics of Gotham in this trailer. It looks like Gotham from the comics, which is more art deco in film noir than just a metropolis with bad street lights. That was my one gripe with Nolan's production in the Dark Knight Trilogy. Gotham is not simply NYC at night. It has its own style and history.

 

[Deset Gled]

Not seeing the oversaturation with Batman?

I get it.

When I was a kid, the only Batman outside the comics was Adam West. He had a TV show that ran in reruns and a movie. Then, we got Keaton in Burton's Batman. Two movies, both were great. Then, we had Kilmer and Clooney (they were less great). Then, we got Batman: The Animated Series. Awesome! TAS got it's own movie: Mask of the Phantasm. Cool. And a great epilogue series, Batman Beyond. Loved it. Then everything got rebooted in Nolan's Batman trilogy. Cool, a gritty new take. Somewhere along the line we also got "The Batman" animated series and Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Then Afleck's Batman in the DCEU. And a new Gotham live action TV show. Oh, and there was a Lego Batman movie, too. And now, Pattinson's Batman.

That's a lot of Batmen in my life. 8 live action actors, many more voice actors, at least 10 different continuities. And it's not even counting ensemble pieces like Justice League or Super Friends. A lot of them are really good. There's just a darn lot of Batmen out there, and most of them in the past 30 years. If a new Wolverine or Iron Man were announced it would be big news. A new actor and continuity for Batman, even if it's great, is just another on the list at this point.

 

[Older Beholder]

The trailer looks good to me.
I’m keen to see Paul Dano as The Riddler

 

[Morrus]

But with MCU, where my feeling is "how many more CGI-spectacular scenes and kinda funny one-liners do I want to endure?" with Batman it is, "Can they really bring new elements of edgy noir gloom?" In both cases it seems tapped out, and I'd like to see a new approach.

I get it, but I think the scale between MCU and Batman is pretty off -- there have been, what, 28(?) MCU movies in the last decade or so, while there have been 3 or 4 with Batman in? I might have my years and numbers a bit off, but I don't feel they're particularly comparable as far as saturation goes.

 

[MarkB]

I get it, but I think the scale between MCU and Batman is pretty off -- there have been, what, 28(?) MCU movies in the last decade or so, while there have been 3 or 4 with Batman in? I might have my years and numbers a bit off, but I don't feel they're particularly comparable as far as saturation goes.

I think what makes the difference is the resets. The MCU movies tell an ongoing story, but we keep getting new versions of Batman.

 

[wicked cool]

batman lore question. will the riddler have followers?

 

[Mercurius]

I get it, but I think the scale between MCU and Batman is pretty off -- there have been, what, 28(?) MCU movies in the last decade or so, while there have been 3 or 4 with Batman in? I might have my years and numbers a bit off, but I don't feel they're particularly comparable as far as saturation goes.

Well, it is just my feeling towards it, so the comparison is subjective, and the feeling similar. And as I said, my feeling is from the perspective of someone who remembers Keaton quite well (if only because I re-watched his first movie several years ago), so it doesn't feel like ancient history to me.

I think what makes the difference is the resets. The MCU movies tell an ongoing story, but we keep getting new versions of Batman.

Yes, I think this has something to do with it.

It is also versions of Batman...this will be the 3rd in less than 10 years. Or 6th actor in 30 years. And that doesn't count animated versions.

The Marvel folks faced a similar problem with Spider-Man, with three actors and story arcs in about 15 years. Part of the problem with the Andrew Garfield films is that they had just had an excellent version of Spider-Man a few years before, so there was a sense of, "Why are they doing this again?"