harlokin
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Your 4E edition failed. Why don't we ignore it? Dragonborn, blink elves and warlords might have something to do with that.
It failed less than the editions that came before.
Your 4E edition failed. Why don't we ignore it? Dragonborn, blink elves and warlords might have something to do with that.
It failed less than the editions that came before.
Which is why it's being replaced quicker than any past edition?
Your 4E edition failed. Why don't we ignore it? Dragonborn, blink elves and warlords might have something to do with that.
I don't discount them out of hand either. They probably belong in a supplement somewhere, but not in the core, in the first PHB. They do not belong there, just as PC race mind flayers probably don't, and I like illithids. Don't want them popping up all over the place as part of a typical adventuring party or NPC though - PC illithids are nowhere near iconic enough for that.Heh. I haven't played 4e since 2009. I've been playing either Pathfinder or AD&D 2nd edition for the better part of three years. Nice try though.
I have no problem with warlords, dragonborn, or eladrin in concept, but the execution of them in 4e (and indeed much of 4e's ideas) ranged from boring to horrible. I await to see how they will be handled in 5e to see if they are handled better. However, I don't discount them out of hand any more than I would assassins, bards, monks, gnomes, or any of a dozen other D&D tropes that have worked their way into the game over 30+ years.
I don't discount them out of hand either. They probably belong in a supplement somewhere, but not in the core, in the first PHB. They do not belong there, just as PC race mind flayers probably don't, and I like illithids. Don't want them popping up all over the place as part of a typical adventuring party or NPC though - PC illithids are nowhere near iconic enough for that.
So right now I think the class I'm most curious about is the Warlock. I was kind of intrigued by the all day caster design from 3.5 and I loved the flavor from 4e (I wish they had done more with the curse though). Anyway, though I'd dearly love to see the new take on Vancian casting for the Wizard, if someone told me I could look at one and only one new class from the current draft of the game I think it would have to be the Warlock.