The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

[CleverNickName]

 

[Mad_Jack]

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So, is non-confrontationally and constructively trying to add to a conversation one of those skills that some people can't master, one of those skills that some people aren't given the opportunity to master, or one of those skills that they just can't be bothered to try mastering?

There is also

..have mastered but choose not to exercise.

All of the above... As far as the last one goes, I've known some incredibly well-spoken, rational people who are vastly entertaining conversationalists who make you feel smarter for having talked to them... As long as you don't hit their particular trigger subjects that turn them into slavering fanatical trolls with a torch in one hand and a noose in the other, completely incapable of anything except viciously attacking anyone that doesn't share their own viewpoint.

 

[payn]

Amazon must be loving their Thursday Night Football rights purchase. No TDs in 6 quarters or longer???

 

[el-remmen]

And the comment I didn't make was, "If expecting a DM to be reasonable and fair, (maybe even generous!) in the adjudication of a rule is too much to ask, then I don't want to play D&D."

 

[RealAlHazred]

And the comment I didn't make was, "If expecting a DM to be reasonable and fair, (maybe even generous!) in the adjudication of a rule is too much to ask, then I don't want to play D&D."

Look, you sat at my table. Let the dice* fall where they may!

* Guaranteed** not weighted.
** Guarantee not guaranteed.

 

[el-remmen]

For all the talk of session zero and buy-in that happens on this site, there are too many people that assume that players are gonna chafe against at best or hate at worst anything the DM presents.

 

[CleverNickName]

For all the talk of session zero and buy-in that happens on this site, there are too many people that assume that players are gonna chafe against at best or hate at worst anything the DM presents.

Sometimes, I read some of the posts here on EN World and wonder if anyone plays D&D with people they actually like.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

For all the talk of session zero and buy-in that happens on this site, there are too many people that assume that players are gonna chafe against at best or hate at worst anything the DM presents.

Hello! I would like to join your game of D&D!

 

[el-remmen]

I have been spoiled that the vast majority of people I have run D&D for have been the "whatever you want" type and are down to play the world and those who haven't been that open to anything have still been pretty easy to compromise with - save a few notable exceptions that in retrospect we were never gonna find a common ground of expectations because of personality* or game style.**

* I had one player who was the D&D equivalent of that kid at Christmas who always preferred what another kid got over his own gift no matter what it was.

** I had one player who was a "build-first" type, and was kind of passive-aggressive when he didn't get an opportunity to use what it his character was built for all the time.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Sometimes, I read some of the posts here on EN World and wonder if anyone plays D&D with people they actually like.

I can't speak for everyone, but I can say that most of the games I've played have started with folks who were relative strangers at the time.

While most of my interactions have been positive, there certainly have been some rough patches. It's almost never really about the game.

One thing I'd say, in my experience mostly with playing online, the power imbalance between the DMs and players is far more significant than what I've seen at a home game. Where there are communications failures or disagreements, the player has to worry about being kicked from the game with no real recourse. So, as a player, you sometimes wind up tolerating a measure of discourtesy or unpleasantness you would not tolerate from friends, because playing is better than not playing.

So I don't really find a level of distrust toward DMs that surprising.