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I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you think your going to kick off and complete an international project with a timeline including US Thanksgiving and Christmas, you are a clown.
 

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I often see projects that have to go back and forth with the print house for weeks or even months sometimes, working out the kinks. If they have already gone through that process before going to Kickstarter, that could explain the speed.

Of course that requires them to have the money to do that out the gate, and with smaller creators, that (and artwork) are often a big part of what the KS is paying for.
 

Of course that requires them to have the money to do that out the gate, and with smaller creators, that (and artwork) are often a big part of what the KS is paying for.
Yeah, they would have to advance some funding, which isn't realistic for most people who go to Kickstarter (that's what Kickstarter is nominally for, as the name implies). The Merry Mushmen aren't a huge outfit, so either they have a good line of credit from somewhere, or are have something else going for him that isn't obvious.
 


Of course that requires them to have the money to do that out the gate, and with smaller creators, that (and artwork) are often a big part of what the KS is paying for.
I've backed a few things that it really seems like that's most of what they're using the KS funds for. Dolmenwood comes to mind, since they've released a few PDFs with a lot of the writing done with placeholders for art that is being worked on. In that case, there's still some writing to be done but the early PDF release is a good sign for a backer that the project is going well. Knave 2e also, but I think for both of those cases they have a healthy Patreon community that's helped support the early writing process.
 



I often see projects that have to go back and forth with the print house for weeks or even months sometimes, working out the kinks. If they have already gone through that process before going to Kickstarter, that could explain the speed.
I ordered a proof of a 354 page book on the 11th, I think I will be lucky to see it before Christmas and then it will get another editing pass, things fixed, and then another proof, it often takes 2 or 3.
 

I ordered a proof of a 354 page book on the 11th, I think I will be lucky to see it before Christmas and then it will get another editing pass, things fixed, and then another proof, it often takes 2 or 3.
How much does it cost, in general terms, for this part of the process? Is it a reasonable hypothesis that Knock has already gone through this process weeks or months ago, and they're just doing the Kickstarter after everything else is done?
 

How much does it cost, in general terms, for this part of the process? Is it a reasonable hypothesis that Knock has already gone through this process weeks or months ago, and they're just doing the Kickstarter after everything else is done?
At a guess that poster is getting print on demand proofs intentionally early rather than offset printer proofs. When you have a book offset print they set the press up, send you one or a few copies to check everything’s good. Once they get the okay, they do the print run. It’s not something that generally sits for months waiting.
 

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