Parmandur
Book-Friend
Absolutely.Big fan of crying at the movies, then?
But yeah, same.
Because I'm a weirdo, the finalized "Children of Hurin" is maybe my favorite Tolkien work.
[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED
Because I'm a weirdo, the finalized "Children of Hurin" is maybe my favorite Tolkien work.
Mercurius
Legend
I really dislike the degree to which criticism is considered "toxic," no matter the reasons for that criticism, as if any change is good and new is always better, and if you dislike an adaptation or new version, you're inherently being "toxic" or, worse yet, "racist."
This is not to say that there aren't voices that are toxic and/or racist, but what I'm taking issue is the broad-brush depiction of any and all--or at least most--complaints as being toxic/racist. It is an all-too easy ad hominem way of writing off legit criticism.
Most of the protests I read have to do with the degree to which an adaptation diverges from the source material and/or the spirit of the source material. This is particularly touchy with something like Tolkien, because it is so beloved. The potential is there for a sense of disrespect and exploitation of an artist's vision.
This is not to say that any alterations and updates are inherently bad or disrespectful of Tolkien, but I think the key is staying true to the spirit of his vision and specific creations.
As for the teaser, my take: Too little to go on. It looks pretty good visually, but on first blush it doesn't feel quite as "authentic Tolkien" as Jackson's initial trilogy. My expectations are tepid. I agree with what someone said up-thread that it should say "inspired by the works of JRR Tolkien." That's how I'm going to approach it, and thus my enjoyment will be based mostly on how good it is as a fantasy story. I'm not looking for it to actualize Tolkien's world on the screen - that's where I think a lot of "Tolkienistas" go wrong.
This is not to say that there aren't voices that are toxic and/or racist, but what I'm taking issue is the broad-brush depiction of any and all--or at least most--complaints as being toxic/racist. It is an all-too easy ad hominem way of writing off legit criticism.
Most of the protests I read have to do with the degree to which an adaptation diverges from the source material and/or the spirit of the source material. This is particularly touchy with something like Tolkien, because it is so beloved. The potential is there for a sense of disrespect and exploitation of an artist's vision.
This is not to say that any alterations and updates are inherently bad or disrespectful of Tolkien, but I think the key is staying true to the spirit of his vision and specific creations.
As for the teaser, my take: Too little to go on. It looks pretty good visually, but on first blush it doesn't feel quite as "authentic Tolkien" as Jackson's initial trilogy. My expectations are tepid. I agree with what someone said up-thread that it should say "inspired by the works of JRR Tolkien." That's how I'm going to approach it, and thus my enjoyment will be based mostly on how good it is as a fantasy story. I'm not looking for it to actualize Tolkien's world on the screen - that's where I think a lot of "Tolkienistas" go wrong.
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
Considering the contradictions, like so much around the edges of Middle-Earth, I suspect Tolkien went back and forth on it over the years.
They did not have full beards, but the dwarven women had varying degrees of facial hair in it. As an aside, apparently Cate Blanchett tried to convince them to let her cameo a bearded dwarven woman in one of the scenes:
“I loved it so much and I did say to Peter and Fran, they were doing a banquet scene with a whole lot of dwarves. I always wanted to play the bearded lady, so I asked them, could I be your hairy wife woman when you pan across the banquet table of dwarves?”
They did not have full beards, but the dwarven women had varying degrees of facial hair in it. As an aside, apparently Cate Blanchett tried to convince them to let her cameo a bearded dwarven woman in one of the scenes:
“I loved it so much and I did say to Peter and Fran, they were doing a banquet scene with a whole lot of dwarves. I always wanted to play the bearded lady, so I asked them, could I be your hairy wife woman when you pan across the banquet table of dwarves?”
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You must not be looking at Twitter or other places, because, trust me, there is plenty of racism.
ART!
Deluxe Unhuman
Children of Hurin is lovely. It reads more like LotR than any of the other Middle-earth writings of his I've read. It's sweeping and epic, but also very grounded and personal.
Akrasia
Procrastinator
That would be very cool were it the case but I'm pretty sure that Amazon doesn't have any rights to anything in the Silmarillion.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Like the forging of the rings of power?
Parmandur
Book-Friend
The Vanity Fair article cleared up that the source material for the show is very specifically Appendix B of Return of the King. Nothing more, nothing less, other than what they make up. So, it's mostly going to be fan fiction, which can go either way.Like the forging of the rings of power?
Which effectively means that they can reference events from the Silmarillion...if they are in Return of the King.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Gotcha. Oh, well. That's really too bad. There's a lot of good stuff in the Silmarillion.
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
Like the forging of the rings of power?
Yes, because it looks like the Amazon deal is for anything in the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales that directly connects to what is in the Appendices in the back of Return of the King.
Amazon's Lord of the Rings Reportedly Has Rights to The Silmarillion
Amazon's Lord of the Rings series has reportedly obtained the rights to J.R.R. Tolkiens's The [...]
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