The Orville Season Two - Thoughts?

[Dannyalcatraz]

Seth has always had a taste for scatology, hence the pre-airdate fears from critics.

But to his credit, I think one of the things that a lot of people gloss over is how normal the general dialogue sounds on this show. Really makes a lot of post-ToS Trek sound stilted.

 

[Deset Gled]

Like they took the edge off the jokes. Now they're reduced to basically just the level of fart jokes the critics initially accused them off!

OTOH, we've had an episode about porn addiction in the holodeck, sex between multiple crew mates (ranging from robot sex to alien sex to the pilot using his rank to pick up chicks), and an episode based entirely on someone needing to pee.

I agree, they're "taking the edge off" this season, but I think they're doing it the other way around. The fart jokes aren't there because they're hilarious, it's to help you not take the show too seriously. A character faking their own death to escape homosexual stigma needs a pinch of humor so that the whole show doesn't turn into Law and Order: SVU ... IN SPACE!

 

[CapnZapp]

I don't need fart jokes for any reason.

I want officers with flaws. Captains who immediately become schlubs when taken captive. I want a security chief who needs hard liquor to command. And I want to surprise Cmdr Kelly in bed with more aliens!

Serious competent Seth MacFarlane can't compete with Picard or even Janeway, so why even try?
New security chief is also serious and competent.
And Kelly has been only serious and competent this season.

All three are a downgrade compared to S1 in my view. Boooring!

Fart jokes or no fart jokes. (Or even whatever "fart jokes" is shorthand for).

This season is far from bust. Heck, I'm still watching! All I'm saying is, if I squint I see a course correction in exactly the direction I imagine Seth would take if he listened to the premiere critics.

Which is the bummer. I'd much rather he listened to the (much better) audience ratings that coalesced in the weeks and months thereafter!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, we already had Garibaldi as an alcoholic security chief, soooo...

 

[Ryujin]

I don't need fart jokes for any reason.

I want officers with flaws. Captains who immediately become schlubs when taken captive. I want a security chief who needs hard liquor to command. And I want to surprise Cmdr Kelly in bed with more aliens!

Serious competent Seth MacFarlane can't compete with Picard or even Janeway, so why even try?
New security chief is also serious and competent.
And Kelly has been only serious and competent this season.

All three are a downgrade compared to S1 in my view. Boooring!

Fart jokes or no fart jokes. (Or even whatever "fart jokes" is shorthand for).

This season is far from bust. Heck, I'm still watching! All I'm saying is, if I squint I see a course correction in exactly the direction I imagine Seth would take if he listened to the premiere critics.

Which is the bummer. I'd much rather he listened to the (much better) audience ratings that coalesced in the weeks and months thereafter!

You might like a novel that Matt Vancil is in the process of writing; "The Fatal Frontier" His "Federation" is in a post scarcity, but capitalist culture. Imagine who rises to command. No fart jokes so far, but you don't want to be a Redshirt.

 

[Mark CMG]

I don't mind if they squeeze off the occasional fart joke and I prefer dry humor.

 

[cbwjm]

I don't mind if they squeeze off the occasional fart joke and I prefer dry humor.

If you prefer dry humour, they better not try too hard to squeeze off an occasional fart joke.

 

[Legatus Legionis]

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[Zardnaar]

MSN reported they have already been renewed for season 3. This after only a few season 2 episodes have been aired.



So are you then a fan of Red Dwarf?

It is more comedy and less serious sci-fi.

Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.

 

[cbwjm]

Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi so good budget of a cheeseburger. Special Effect budget of Humans are two shaded of contact lenses.

Are you okay? Are you having a stroke?

 

[Zardnaar]

Are you okay? Are you having a stroke?

Fine trying to do 3 things at once. Yeah that post was horrible.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.

I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Never watched Humans, but am quite familiar with a fair number of other UK genre fiction shows. Besides Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, local PBS, SyFy and other channels have aired Torchwood, Blake’s 7, Apparitions, Sea of Souls, Strange, Survivors, Demons, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, The Fades , Primeval and goodness knows how many others.

 

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[Ryujin]

Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.

Some North Americans are familiar with Red Dwarf. A few of us were unfortunate enough to have seen the two separate attempts at Americanizing the series (one of which had Jane Leeves as Holly).

 

[Ryujin]

Blake's 7 is the best.

Also great because the show is total false advertising.

Very little Blake, rarely with 7.

That said, you really have to suspend disbelief when it comes to the ... um ... special effects. "Hey look, in the space armada, it's a toaster!"

And no Blake at all in the final season, if memory serves.

 

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[Morrus]

I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Never watched Humans, but am quite familiar with a fair number of other UK genre fiction shows. Besides Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, local PBS, SyFy and other channels have aired Torchwood, Blake’s 7, Apparitions, Sea of Souls, Strange, Survivors, Demons, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, The Fades , Primeval and goodness knows how many others.

I've only heard of about half of those...

 

[Richards]

And no Blake at all in the final season, if memory serves.

Wasn't he brought back in the final episode - just to share the same fate as the rest of the crew?

Johnathan

 

[Ryujin]

Wasn't he brought back in the final episode - just to share the same fate as the rest of the crew?

Johnathan

You're absolutely right. I had forgotten that. It's been rather a while

 

[Umbran]

There isn't anywhere to watch Blake's 7, though, which stinks. I have several times been tempted to buy the DVD set.