the tablet war is heating up

The overall post was about Android. The part where I said "Motorola and their amazing Droids" was about Motorola. Not sure what you're getting at.

Most of the Android handset makers aren't making much money from them, but Motorola is particularly in trouble. The Xoom is making it even worse for them.
Droid/Android = same thing. Your post painted a very clear picture that no one was making money off the brand, Apple was crushing Android in terms of satisfaction and so on. When nothing could be further from the truth. Didn't think me calling your interpretation of where the two are at was that hard to get.

Oh well, my bad.
 

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FWIW "Droid" is a trademark of Lucasfilm which has been specifically licensed by Verizon for use with certain Motorola phones. None of the other Android phones are called Droids, nor is the OS. Lucasfilm is very touchy about the term, which is why you don't see other carriers, other manufacturers, or Google using it.
 

Your post painted a very clear picture that no one was making money off the brand, Apple was crushing Android in terms of satisfaction and so on. When nothing could be further from the truth.

You're welcome to disagree with my opinions, of course, but "nothing could be further from the truth" -- aka I'm lying in the points I made -- is simply, factually wrong. You're welcome to counter with facts, but I'd appreciate you not implying that I'm being untruthful unless you would care to prove it.

All data is less than 60 days old:

Market Share:
Apple Still Trouncing Android shows 37.9 million on iOS vs 23.8 million on Android.

Operating System:
65.9% now running Android 2.2 , released in May 2010: that's up from the 50% in January that I recalled from memory (and is shown on Google's graph), plus 4% running 2.3.
On iPhones 90-95% now running iOS 4.0, released in June 2010, or later (info from several sources as Apple doesn't provide it).

Developers Making More Money from iOS:
Android Provides More Eyeballs to Advertisers, While iPhone Offers Most Revenue to App Creators, Study Finds
iPhone App User Worth More Than An Android App User

Profitability:
In its second quarter, Apple claimed a full half of the operating profits generated by the industry’s eight largest manufacturers.

Customer Satisfaction:
Smartphone Customer Satisfaction 2011
 
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The funny thing about marketshare is that the iOS includes iPods, iPhones, iTV (which is really just itunes made hardware with a hard disk), and iPads.

They really have to break that statistic into various catagories because that 10 million lead has to be iPods, iPads, and some iTVs.
 

Market Share:
Apple Still Trouncing Android shows 37.9 million on iOS vs 23.8 million on Android.
I know you are simply copying a link, but "trouncing" is just media hype.

If there are 61.7 million users between iOS and Android, this means that iOS has 61.4% share. Not exactly a trounce. Trounce is the number of people using Office vs. other business suites, or the share of Windows computers vs. various Linux OSes.

A 61.4% share is good, even maybe dominant (but RdM has a point above), but saying it trounces Android is just wrong. If it was 80/20? then yes. but (basically) 60/40, then no.
 

There's also a note about Android Fragmentation.

Many manufacturers have been holding off on Android 2.3. The reason may have been because soon after it's launch, Google and Motorola unveiled Honeycomb tablet (Xoom) then blatantly stated:

Mobile Beat said:
Schmidt said that the next version of Android, which will “start with an I [and] be named after a dessert”, will combine the current Gingerbread release for phones (Android version 2.3 and 2.4) with Honeycomb for tablets (version 3.0) into a single OS. That means we shouldn’t expect to see Honeycomb running on phones anytime soon, and that Ice Cream will be the next major Android update for phones.
source: Android Ice Cream will combine Honeycomb for tablets, Gingerbread for phones | VentureBeat

That was back in February.

I'm pretty certain most phone manufactures took that statement as meaning "Don't build 2.3 phones YET. Just Upgrade your existing devices to 2.3 since we are still locking down the specs on Ice Cream Sandwich and are not sure what the minimal upgrade specs will be.

Of course the 2.3 adoption rate isn't helped by the fact that custom UIs roms make upgrading difficult and time consuming (well at least for official roms) and every phone manufacturer would rather have you buy a new phone then upgrade your existing one (why Samsung had a class action suit against them), so as a result 2.3 might end up being a "skipped version."
 
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I know you are simply copying a link, but "trouncing" is just media hype.

If there are 61.7 million users between iOS and Android, this means that iOS has 61.4% share. Not exactly a trounce. Trounce is the number of people using Office vs. other business suites, or the share of Windows computers vs. various Linux OSes.

A 61.4% share is good, even maybe dominant (but RdM has a point above), but saying it trounces Android is just wrong. If it was 80/20? then yes. but (basically) 60/40, then no.

If you compare each company on a one on one basis Apple is Trouncing.
 

I know you are simply copying a link, but "trouncing" is just media hype.

I agree. I contemplated not using the actual titles, probably should have renamed them all. Definitely not trouncing.

I tried to pull iPads out of those numbers (Apple TV is pretty negligible, maybe a million) but man oh man are hard numbers difficult to come by. I intentionally lump iPhone and iPod Touch together, though, since that was my point.
 

I'm pretty certain most phone manufactures took that statement as meaning "Don't build 2.3 phones YET. Just Upgrade your existing devices to 2.3 since we are still locking down the specs on Ice Cream Sandwich and are not sure what the minimal upgrade specs will be.

Agreed, that's why I used 2.2, which was released a month before iOS 4, my comparison point.
 

If you compare each company on a one on one basis Apple is Trouncing.

Like I said, you have to break it down into various catagories.


iPhone (OS) vs Android Phones -- Hard to tell
iPods vs hand held Android Media Players -- iPods
iPads vs Android Tablets -- iPads
Apple eBook Readers vs Android eBook readers * -- Android since iPads are Tablets not "eReaders"
Apple TV vs Google TV + Android running TVs** -- Hard to tell




* Dedicated eReaders. However, this category is problematic since there really is a format war going on in the eBook category.
** This really isn't that good of a pairing since Apple TV is a box that runs your itunes while Google TVs can be an actual TV, DVD/Blue Ray players, or "box" that streams media like the Apple TV. Then there also are the misc. tvs that run Android but are not considered "Google TVs."
 
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