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That's not actually new news considering that the whole Adobe vs Apple feud was because Adobe was making a as3 to Objective C- converter for FlashBuilder 5 and Apple got pissed.

Adobe has really been coming up with ways to convert as3 files to pretty much everything.

Not the whole story though, right?

Apple fired the first shot by banning Flash from the iOS devices.

So Adobe decides to build a cross-converter to allow flash apps to be turned into iOS apps.

So Apple changes the licensing to outlaw that (and as a byproduct prevents people using a number of gaming libraries and such)

I've not followed much what happened after that point though.

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Not the whole story though, right?

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I've not followed much what happened after that point though.

I heard some rumors that there was more to the feud then it starting with the iOS Flash ban.

One (which I think was somewhat credible) was that Apple asked Adobe to optimized flash work on lower memory devices and received a reply that was essentially "It already does, why don't you make better hardware." Of course, if that did happen we would never know since Apple and Adobe are less likely to tweet out their insults to each other like Nokia and Google have in the past.

But yeah, its hard to keep up with all the apple and adobe bickering considering how they pretty much are frienimys.
 

Now you mention it I seem to recall that Apple have complained to Adobe about flash performance and stability on MacOS for quite some while, and Adobe have tended to say "Whatever". Of course, going way, way back it was Aldus Pagemaker that originally 'made' the Mac platform in days gone by, long taken over by Adobe, yet Adobe in recent years stopped making MacOS its primary development platform for Photoshop and its other products, and this can't have sat well with Apple.

Frenemies indeed!
 

I heard some rumors that there was more to the feud then it starting with the iOS Flash ban.

One (which I think was somewhat credible) was that Apple asked Adobe to optimized flash work on lower memory devices and received a reply that was essentially "It already does, why don't you make better hardware." Of course, if that did happen we would never know since Apple and Adobe are less likely to tweet out their insults to each other like Nokia and Google have in the past.

But yeah, its hard to keep up with all the apple and adobe bickering considering how they pretty much are frienimys.

according to legend, the feud goes way back, to PostScript fonts. Can't find the article but I vaguely recall hearing about it back in the day. There's a lot of technological back and forth between those two.

In the recent era, Adobe and Flash wasn't the only Apple argument. Apple also got cranky with Google, and that caused Eric Schmidt to leave Apple's board (CEO of Google, I remember him from his Novell days). That little tiff caused more delays in approvals for Google apps, and is probably the reason the map app has NEVER really been updated on the iThing.
 

/Facepalm

I've been reading that Motorola has released the Honeycomb 3.1 update that includes microSD support, for European customers.

Motorola... How I loath you.

Well, fair is fair...European and Canadian Xoom owners have been waiting since what...early May? For 3.1....

It's the main reason I didn't end up getting a Xoom. It became evident they didn't really care about the Canadian market. No sense giving them cash.

Banshee
 

Anyone getting the HP when it appears in July? It is looking like my top choice at the moment.

I'll be taking a look at it.

I thought I was getting the Xoom, but given my habitation of Canada, and the fact that it seems like any updates will be way after updates done in the U.S., at this point, I'm considering the HP tablet, or maybe the ASUS EEE Pad Transformer or Toshiba Thrive. The Thrive is supposedly the heaviest of the bunch. However.....full and micro USB, full size HDMI, full size SD Card, a swappable battery and an IPS screen makes up for a lot of device size concerns. 1.6 lbs really isn't that heavy. Battery life of 7 hours doesn't sound like the best though.

I'm not 100% sure if I like the feel of the EEE Pad Transformer.

I'm not as familiar with WebOS, but it definitely looks like a solid OS.

Banshee
 

Well, fair is fair...European and Canadian Xoom owners have been waiting since what...early May? For 3.1....

It's the main reason I didn't end up getting a Xoom. It became evident they didn't really care about the Canadian market. No sense giving them cash.

Banshee

Yeah but the American Xoom owners who received their 3.1 update last month do not have microsd.

I'm certain Motorola most likely wrote off the Xoom Gen 1 and didn't tell anyone about it since they already are advertising for Xoom 2.

How do I know? Look at the location of the power button and camera that "Motorola tablet," that's not where it would be on a Gen 1 Xoom.

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Lots of Apple vs Adobe stuff. Prior to the Flash stuff there was a long-running issue with Adobe never fully porting its apps over to the Cocoa framework which meant they wouldn't run in 64-bit mode, eventually making them inferior to the versions running on Windows, especially when dealing with large files.

As to Aldus, while there's no doubt that Pagemaker was instrumental in the Mac's success, the Mac was essential to Aldus': both benefitted greatly.
 

Yeah but the American Xoom owners who received their 3.1 update last month do not have microsd.

I'm certain Motorola most likely wrote off the Xoom Gen 1 and didn't tell anyone about it since they already are advertising for Xoom 2.

How do I know? Look at the location of the power button and camera that "Motorola tablet," that's not where it would be on a Gen 1 Xoom.

YouTube - &[URL=http://www.enworld.org/forum/misc.php?do=dbtech_usertag_hash&hash=x202a]#x202aTablets Powered by Verizon&#x202c‏[/url]

I've seen that commercial though, and there's lots of debate as to whether that's for a Xoom 2 or a Xoom 2 slightly updated for Verizon 4G? There was the issue where it came out for one network, people payed a premium to have it upgradeable to 4G, and have waited since March, and now it's being announced for another carrier, with 4G, and all the people waiting for the upgrade are feeling like they've been taken advantage of.

Seeing the frustration of the Xoom owners online is a big reason I've held back...because otherwise, the hardware does seem pretty nice. Feels more solid than the iPad 2.

I've heard that Honeycomb apps are starting to fill in the marketplace a bit also.

IMO, it would be a PR disaster for them to start selling an actual Xoom 2 when the Xoom 1 customers are still waiting for promised functionality.

I definitely understand the American customers not having the micro SD. But they've at least had 3.1, whereas customers outside of the U.S. don't even have that. Plus, Google Movies and a bunch of other services are also disabled.

I understand the CRTC's goal of protecting local production of programming etc. Due to the fact we're 10% of the size of the U.S., if we didn't have any protection, we could say goodbye to any kind of Canadian production....but it's still annoying, because it also allows us to be gouged, and for the "old guard" to cripple innovators like Netflix when they try to come up here.

What's suspicious about the whole thing with Xoom updates, however, is why companies like ASUS can simultaneously update all their customers, worldwide, in one shot, whereas Motorola has to wait months to handle customers outside of the U.S.

Banshee
 

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