The Two Bladed Sword

[The Kender]

I'm debating over the Two Bladed Sword right now. What do you do when you enchance it. Is it:

A) Treated as Two Weapons(+10 Max on each side)
B) Treated as 1 Weapon (+10 Total)
C) Something Else

If A, what happens when you add Throwing to one end & Returning to the other? Does the throwing end break from the returning end, fly, and hit the target and the returning hand just stay in my hand because it was never thrown in the first place?

Just to get your brains moving today

 

[ANDY JONES]

i would say A

 

[Phoenix8008]

I believe the answer is 'A'. This was the answer I got when I recently posed some similar questions in the following thread which you might want to read...

http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12679

 

[Tar-Edhel]

I'm debating over the Two Bladed Sword right now. What do you do when you enchance it. Is it:

A) Treated as Two Weapons(+10 Max on each side)
B) Treated as 1 Weapon (+10 Total)
C) Something Else

If A, what happens when you add Throwing to one end & Returning to the other? Does the throwing end break from the returning end, fly, and hit the target and the returning hand just stay in my hand because it was never thrown in the first place?

For enchantment purpose, each head is considered a weapon so the answer is A.

I'd say that throwing and returning enchantments affect the whole sword. Thus, throwing/returning would produce a sword that can be thrown and return to the wielder (as the dwarven thrower), independently of the head upon which the enchantments are casts.

The throwing/returning Two-bladed sword is a very cool idea, btw. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it

 

[Negative Zero]

I'm pretty so I saw a pos in a thread sometime ago that said that the total enhancements possible on a double-weapon was +10 total. i.e. +5 per side/end. Now, I'm no expert at weapon enhancement rules, and I don't remember who said it, but you may want to hold out until some other people chime in on this.

~NegZ

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I'm not sure whether there's a official handling of the maximum enchantment of a double weapon, but I'd say, the two heads are to have separate enchantments, so both heads can have +10 (+5 from enhancement bonus alone), as usual. If it would be +10 in total, you'd be far better off with two separate weapons.

 

[Ancalagon]

Hmmm

The way I see it, for a double weapon to work as a returning, both sides would need to be enchanted with the returning property

Apart from that, I would say that each side is enchanted independently, ie, enchanting 2 sides as +1 weapons would cost 4000 gp, not 8000 gp.

Ancalagon

 

[Kwalish Kid]

Well, Anc, I don't often disagree with you, but I'm going to now. I think that only one of the weapons on a double weapon needs to be so enchanted. However, if only one side is enchanted like that, then the weapon can only be expected to return if the weapon is thrown so that that particular side is what is aimed at the target.

So a dwarven urgrosh (whatever) could have only the spear end enchanted to throw and return. If the wielder tried to throw with the axe end leading, the weapon would be (a) unweildy to throw and (b) would not return.

 

[The Kender]

Thanks for the help. I guess I'll assume +10 per end when I make it. I like the idea of Holy & Unholy on each end. Phoenix8008, you're the one that gave me the idea of the Throwing & Returning Sword. I just thought I'd put that to get people to think.

 

[Apok]

AFAIK, each end of the weapon is considered an independant weapon and so both can be fully enchanted up to +10. One way to handle the Throwing & Returning idea is to say that when either enchantment is added to the weapon, it takes plusses from both ends simultaneously.

Since both Throwing and Returning are +1, when you enchant a double weapon with them you reduce both heads by 2 (1 for the Throwing and the other for Returning) leaving you with 8 plusses open. Just keep in mind that at least one head would have to be +1 for the weapon to bear any other enchantment. I use this rule because you don't have to spend double the XP to enchant the weapon but you don't save any plusses this way.