The Warlock out of alignment

Andor

First Post
Okay so Bhob the Chaotic Evil Warlock puts on the cursed bodice of alignment changing (He thought it changed something else you see and he'd always been curious about... Well it's not germain to the discussion.) and is now Lawful Good.

So what does this mean? To the best of my knowledge the Warlock is the only class to have an alignment restriction but not specify any penalties for violation.

Does Bhob lose all his powers? Retain his powers but lose the ability to advance as a Warlock? Continue merrily on his way since you only need to be Chaotic/Evil to get into a warlock contract, but once you have it signed you're good to go?

-Andor
 

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Mekabar

First Post
Since they did not specify that anything happens to his Warlock abilities, by the rules, well, nothing happens to his Warlock abilities. ;) He would however be barred from taking more Warlock levels, since he does not meet the class requirements. It's the same way that you can't take Monk, Barbarian, Paladin, Druid etc. levels or multiclass to them, if you don't have the appropriate alignment.
 


frankthedm

First Post
Given the nature of what got him those powers, I would say all offencive powers trigger each round, affecting him until he dies.

Or at least a negative level for the perv.
 

Saeviomagy

Adventurer
Mekabar said:
Since they did not specify that anything happens to his Warlock abilities, by the rules, well, nothing happens to his Warlock abilities. ;) He would however be barred from taking more Warlock levels, since he does not meet the class requirements. It's the same way that you can't take Monk, Barbarian, Paladin, Druid etc. levels or multiclass to them, if you don't have the appropriate alignment.

I'd say that absolutely nothing happens. He continues to level up as normal - there are no rules about meeting basic class requirements in order to level up in them, except those stated within the specific classes themselves. Even "a <class> who becomes <alignment> cannot further advance as a <class>" has to be specifically called out in each classes description.
 

Sir ThornCrest

First Post
the warlock doesnt have an alignment restriction?

most are chaotic and/or evil but the Warlock introduction even mention being a good aligned warlock and how he would know how the other half thinks because he has a darkspot in his own being that he fights against.

Sir Thorncrest



Andor said:
Okay so Bhob the Chaotic Evil Warlock puts on the cursed bodice of alignment changing (He thought it changed something else you see and he'd always been curious about... Well it's not germain to the discussion.) and is now Lawful Good.

So what does this mean? To the best of my knowledge the Warlock is the only class to have an alignment restriction but not specify any penalties for violation.

Does Bhob lose all his powers? Retain his powers but lose the ability to advance as a Warlock? Continue merrily on his way since you only need to be Chaotic/Evil to get into a warlock contract, but once you have it signed you're good to go?

-Andor
 

Particle_Man

Explorer
But that would be the chaotic good one. Heck, I suppose it could be chaotic good and exalted, even. But one that became lawful good or neutral good or lawful neutral or (true) neutral?

Looks like either

a) They can't advance as warlock anymore, but keep previous warlock abilities.
b) They can advance as warlock without penalty.
c) They lose all warlock abilities.
d) They explode.

Personally, I would go for option a if I were dm, but the rules don't say anything, so b is likely correct until the erratta, which I confidently predict would pick option a instead of, say, option c.

But option d would be the sadistically fun one, for certain DM's :]
 

Felonious Monk

First Post
It only says that Warlocks are often chaotic or evil (or both), not that they have to be. I'm partial to chaotic neutral warlocks myself, but there shouldn't be a penalty if his (her? both?) alignment suddenly changes to something else. Any decision to the contrary would be a house rule.
 


Perun

Mushroom
RigaMortus said:
What does this mean then:

This is found on page 7 of the Complete Arcane, under Warlock...

The class description says they have to be "any Chaotic" (CG, CN, CE) or "any Evil" (LE, NE, CE). Since the text uses "or" as the conjunctive, either option is viable. Therefore, warlocks can pick any of the following alignments: LE, NE, CE, CN, CG.

And since there's no Ex-Warlocks section in the class description, then they suffer the exact same penalties for changing alignment as fighters, rangers, rogues, sorcerers, or wizards, i.e. none.

This might be adressed in the CA errata (along with the eldritch blast equivalent spell level, which has already been errataed), once it's available, but somehow I doubt it.
 

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