VoP & Adamantium Warforged

[vulcan_idic]

Could a Warforged with the Adamantium Body feat take the Vow of Poverty? Granted the AC bonus would overlap not stack, but it could still be an interesting character...

Quarterstaff wielding Vow of Poverty Adamantium clad Warforged Fighter, who could never use any components or docents... could be intriguing.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

I don't see anything preventing it.

A warforged's body isn't really a possession, though I would rule that he could not subsequently enhance his body through magic.

 

[Nail]

....that is to say, the VoP Warforged could not pay to have his body enhanced with magic. If someone else was willing to pay for it, his Vow wouldn't prevent him from accepting it.

 

[RigaMortus2]

....that is to say, the VoP Warforged could not pay to have his body enhanced with magic. If someone else was willing to pay for it, his Vow wouldn't prevent him from accepting it.

Could a VoP WF "donate" money to the church and have them "enhance" his body?

 

[Sejs]

Could a VoP WF "donate" money to the church and have them "enhance" his body?

...then he's not really donating, is he? He's buying a service and trying to put a pretty face on it.

Which seems sort of out of line for the Vow.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

...then he's not really donating, is he? He's buying a service and trying to put a pretty face on it.

Which seems sort of out of line for the Vow.

Yep. Now, I suppose if the WF was held down for the procedure and had it done kicking and screaming, then it wouldn't *technically* violate the Vow.

That, however, would really have to happen in-game, and not be done by the other PCs, otherwise it's kinda sketchy.

Granted the AC bonus would overlap not stack, but it could still be an interesting character...

The AC bonus would still be useful in an anti-magic field, as all Exalted feats go away in those, being Supernatural effects and all. (Sigh.) That is, of course, fairly limited in utility.

Brad

 

[Nail]

As I see it, if another PC wanted to spend his XP and gp (for material's cost) to enhance the VoP warforged, that's not violating the warforged vow of not owning anything of value.

In our games, my Clr regularly put various Pact spells (CD) on our VoP Monk, which cost my Clr XP. My PC thought of it pragmatically: fewer dead monks = fewer dead clerics. .....And, to be honest, the monk and my cleric were of the same religion, so it worked that way too.

 

[Luthien Greyspear]

I would allow it, only because the Warforged couldn't have chosen to be Adamantine, it had to be at its creation. The Warforged wouldn't have even been aware of the value of his own shell until he was animated, at which point it would have been too late to protest. It isn't like the character is going to sell off his own hand for some quick cash, or anything.

I might, however, grant some small bonus to a VoP Warforged that took the Reforged PrC (Races of Eberron). Nothing huge, maybe a role-playing based bonus. Taking a class that specifically negates an advantage is role-playing gold.

 

[CyberSpyder]

....that is to say, the VoP Warforged could not pay to have his body enhanced with magic. If someone else was willing to pay for it, his Vow wouldn't prevent him from accepting it.

Right. Just like a VoP human fighter could not pay for his +5 flaming vorpal greatsword, but if someone else was willing to pay for it, his Vow wouldn't prevent him from accepting it.

 

[Luthien Greyspear]

Right. Just like a VoP human fighter could not pay for his +5 flaming vorpal greatsword, but if someone else was winning to pay for it, his Vow wouldn't prevent him from accepting it.

Excellent point (the sarcasm, that is). The VoP prevents the character from owning anything of value. I (as a DM) would definitely extend this to any expensive enchantments placed on one's own body, as there is a quantifiable GP value attached to it.

As long as there is no GP value attached to an enhancement for a character, I would allow it for a VoP-restricted character. Temporary magical tattoos granted by a spell, the enhancements gained by a kensai that focuses on unarmed combat, and the like are all allowable, as they don't cost a single copper.