I just tried both site, but not what I am looking for. I have seen some good templates but most are very customized with graphics, etc. I am just trying to find something more basic. I am pretty decent with webpage design, but no where near as good as some of the stuff I have seen out there.
Some of the clan templates are awesome, but are specific to the game they are for adding options for mouseon stats, etc. I am looking for something much more basic.