Thomas Shey
Legend
Not realizing there are plenty of people in the hobby that are very shallow in their approach doesn't make them not exist. Maybe you want to avoid them if you can, but they aren't going away.
What makes setting lore "actually matter" to the players?
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Not realizing there are plenty of people in the hobby that are very shallow in their approach doesn't make them not exist. Maybe you want to avoid them if you can, but they aren't going away.
Thomas Shey
Legend
As I've noted before, there are people who were there for token play from day one.
Reynard
aka Ian Eller
In my opinion, the real thing that makes RPGs RPGs isn't "storytelling" but agency -- the ability to do (or try) anything.
Bill Zebub
“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
...and a lot of them explore/expand into new areas over time.
Thomas Shey
Legend
Sure. But new people are coming in all the time and older players leaving, so assuming token play is attractive to newer players, you're always going to see plenty of it.
In addition, people who expand don't necessarily do so into ways that care intrinsically about setting. Some end up going heavily down what's sometimes called the "theater kid" dynamic, and they're very focused on whatever concept they've come up with, and where its operating is distinctly secondary. Others run up the power-gaming line, and they often only care about setting to the degree that supports or impedes that.
And of course some people just coast along with a casual approach for decades.
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
None of that makes it not depressing.
Thomas Shey
Legend
I don't know why it should be depressing that some people are very casual with the hobby; there are plenty that are with any other hobby, why should this be different?
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
The more people like that, the more likely the hobby will turn that way in general. And I don't want that.
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