D&D 5E Whatever "lore" is, it isn't "rules."

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[Imaro]

Given the length of time you have spent discussing your distinction, if "a lot of posters" aren't getting it, then either-

1. You aren't arguing the distinction you think you are; or
2. you aren't communicating effectively; or
3. "a lot of posters" (like me, apparently) are really dumb and will never understand you.

Not sure it really matters what category it falls into. The distinction is meaningful for your game, and not meaningful for other people's games. If that's the point you wish to make, then more power to you, and discuss away!

What are you talking about? Some posters got it and agreed some didn't (either they didn't get it... or they may just not agree) that's the nature of a discussion... I don't expect everyone to agree with me... do you?

 

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[Imaro]

Of course I do- because I am always right. Then again, I also fully expect people to disagree with me, because other people are often wrong. That's the trouble with life.

That said, I completely agree with you that you and your table have a specific definition of canon. You have convinced me that your anecdote accurately describes the play at your table, and I have no wish to change how you describe things. Carry on!

Oh... what's your "definition" of canon??

Just trying to see if we can get you to add something meaningful to the discussion...

 

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[Imaro]

I think I already did! I mean, it's not like I haven't offered several substantive comments in the past 10,000 posts spread across multiple threads.

Admittedly, I lack the energy and focus to both bold and all-cap my dispositive points, but that's probably just because I lack both a deep emotional connection with the subject and, quite frankly, don't care enough. It's not like the comment 10,001 is going to make an appreciable difference.

UNLESS IT DOES!

So nothing worth while to contribute... got it. You know you don't HAVE (that was for you ) to keep posting in a thread you are done with...

 

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[TwoSix]

You can run "canon" GH your way, others can run "canon" GH their own way, and we can agree to disagree.

KATANAS ARE CANON.

This is across all settings and all tables, because KATANAS ARE CANON.

[sblock]If that doesn't kill the thread, what can? [/sblock]

 

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[Aldarc]

It's not canon FR... at least IMO. They've basically stated... I've homebrewed my FR with this, this and this...

But it hasn't stopped being Forgotten Realms has it? And what exactly has changed regarding your expectations in terms of "character types" and "backstory" with these changes? Would you not feel that you are in Forgotten Realms anymore? And is this really all that different between jumping around different eras of the Forgotten Realms canon? What if I said "Okay group, we are going to run Forgotten Realms during the 4e's Spellplague era but with the 5e rules"?

Hmmm... well in our group if I said I'm running a 2e Dark Sun game... My players would know what character classes, races, etc. are acceptable and what isn't acceptable. In the same way if I say I'm running a 2e Greyhawk game I don't expect them to come to the table with half-giants and cannibal halflings... this is especially helpful in pick up/open games at the FLGS.

Therein is the problem. I don't expect my players to come to the table with anything other than a willingness to play and a few possible character concepts. Although I may point my players to some places for preliminary reading about a campaign setting, I want my players to build and create their characters together. That's when I want to make sure that the players understand the expectations of the campaign.

EDIT: My players know the lore of the settings we choose to play in well enough that they can pretty much make a character on their own and save us wasted time at the table.

To me, it's not a matter of knowing the setting material well enough or not, but the particular expectations of any given campaign. I for one don't care how bloody well my players know Eberron or a campaign setting; I want everyone to be on the same page about the expectations of the campaign. Creating characters together is not wasted time at my table.