Paul Farquhar
Legend
Its episodic structure is more suitable to TV. I would think a lot of episodes would end up being cut in a movie.
Will Nolan lean into or play down the fantasy elements?
What's The Next Big Pop Cultural Push?
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Will Nolan lean into or play down the fantasy elements?
The thing is, there seems to already be a trend towards cutting movies into multiple parts (The Hobbit, Dune, Wicked, etc)
Paul Farquhar
Legend
It's certainly a possible approach, and would leave room to deal with Odysseus's role in the Trojan war, and scenes with Penelope before he left. If you did three parts, part three could focus on Telemacus searching for his dad.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
But that's the standard I'm judging by! I.e. as compared to US action movies!
Even by the standards of US action movies, Bollywood (very much including both India and Pakistan here) action movies tend to have a level of distinct fascist sensibility that I don't think most US audiences are going to vibe with, that just comes across as nastiness and cruelty, especially because US audiences are much more repulsed by fascism when non-white non-Americans are engaging in it.
You sometimes see this in Japanese fiction too - there's a comfortable-ness with outright jackbooted fascism that the US does not yet have (though let's check again in 6 months at the current rate jesus). Japan seems less comfortable with that now than 20 years ago though (with exceptions, c.f. Attack on Titan - not actually-fascist but far, far too keen on flirting with and winking at fascist stuff even though the ultimate message is anti-fascist, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, it takes four+ seasons before you really even begin to get there).
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Gradine
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That and flirtations with fascism in the US are always very weird because US fascism is also paradoxically skeptical of the "State" as an entity, so US action movie fascism is more about lone white man vigilantes with gun(s) shooting mostly minority petty criminals while spouting enough white American cultural piccadollas (like, for instance, what's appropriate or not to put on hot dogs) to remind audiences that in a "perfect" world the "State" would be handling things this way.
I mean, that or military fetishism.
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Ruin Explorer
Legend
Yeah whereas Japanese fascist flirtation tends to weirdly glorify the state and often features what are unequivocally very heavily armed death squads fighting (basically just "exterminating" in many cases) under-armed and brave-but-beleaguered "terrorists" (who are generally living under regimes not even subject to democratic change!). And there's often a bit of moral ambiguity, but ultimately we're meant to side with the death squads, whether it's Jin Roh or Appleseed or whatever.
The Bollywood movies are a bit confused because they tend to reflect US action movies in construction, but don't have the same level of scepticism towards the state or state power or y'know straight-up murdering people.
MoonSong
Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
@Ruin Explorer, check "Moon Channel" (don't confuse if with the "Moon" channel, as it is the opposite. Look for the one with a cute cartoon moon and Ace Attorney characters instead of a moon face with a rocket on the eye). There's one video about how Japanese pop culture is getting a push towards that. However, I'd advise to climb back from that tangent, as we are straying too much outside the specs of this forum.
How about Odysseus…IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE!
Which made me think…
Like LotR, Dante’s Inferno- indeed, the entire Divine Comedy- could be done in an arcology or generational starship.
Like LotR, Dante’s Inferno- indeed, the entire Divine Comedy- could be done in an arcology or generational starship.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
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