I want these people killed quite frankly. What they are doing is treason and rebellion. I would fully support a joint tactical strike to wipe them out.
Well, they're mostly white and they aren't Muslims, so I won't hold my breath waiting for the lefties here to condemn your statement.
They've been exactly as peaceful as the occupy Wall Street and other occupy movements were.
And probably a lot cleaner, too. I haven't read anything about them leaving mountains of trash, running rape tents, or taking a dump on a cop car yet.
There are plenty of videos on the net of white people who open carry and are approached slowly and non-violently by cops because people in the neighborhood felt intimidated or threaten. It can get tense, but usually there is talk and no shooting. In the case of Tamir Rice, the kid was in a open carry state... and black. The cops rushed in and shot him immediately. Same case with John Crawford who was in a open carry state, black, was holding a toy gun and was shot by a cop. Heck, a NYPD cop shot an unarmed blackmen in a stairwell just because it was dark and the cop got scared. There is a bias toward black people. They are seen as violent and a menace. Same with Muslims. Its ugly, but true.
If armed black people or Muslims did what these guys are doing, the narrative wouldn't be about peaceful protestors in a wildlife refuge.
That was all down to the dispatcher, who failed to relay any of the mitigating circumstances (probably a juvenile, probably a toy gun) to the responding officers, who thought they had a perp waving a gun at innocent bystanders. He pointed it at the cops when they arrived, after repeated orders to drop the gun. Yes, he was a juvenile, but he was 5'7", not exactly a tiny lil' waif. I agree it was tragic, but it wasn't like the cops had no excuse.
As for bias, a lot of black cops shoot black people, too.
How many "armed protesters" did Occupy Wall Street have?
So, right to protest is obviated by exercising 2nd Amendment?
Awesome, let's set a precedent were any group of "armed protesters" can take over government property and threaten violence if they don't get their way. That's sure to turn out well.
There's long and broad precedent for protesters taking over gov't property (even in a threatening way) when they don't get their way. All you're objecting to is that they're exercising their 2nd Amendment rights at the same time. Or maybe their politics. Heck, the mayor of Baltimore gave a speech during the riots that said the city gov't should give the rioters "safe space" to carry out their riots.
How exactly one of the Bundy's saying they're willing to kill in this situation and being armed isn't an attempt at intimidation or a threat of violence eludes me. It's clearly an attempt at intimidation of the authorities.
I'm willing to kill 24/7/365. Much of that time, I have been armed. That's how self-defense works.
The number of black people who commit crime is rather small. Higher than white people, yes, but still small. Cops aren't force by black people to stop them when they drive cars or perform "stop and frisk" on them.
Lefties are too fond of telling everyone how big a share of the black male population will spend time in prison in their lifetimes for the rest of us to buy that one.
"The oppressed," lol. More like "the coddled."
As for stop and frisk, I find it ironic that lefties hate S&F, which is the best way to get guns out of the hands of criminals.
Look, again, I think these people are idiots. They're committing criminal trespass. They're inviting scorn by saying that they'll defend themselves. There's no heroic or anything worth emulation or adulation here. But neither is there the things that the internet is screaming about, like terrorism or threatening to kill police. The stupid is strong enough already without adding made up stupid on top of it.
Oh, I dunno. They seem to have plenty of balls. That much at least seems worth emulating.
I would chuckle if they went out that quietly though, for all their bluster and posturing.
Right. If they go out shooting, they're terrorists and must be destroyed. If they go out quietly, they're cowards.
The best phrase I've heard so far is, "Of course they are willing to die for their cause. They were promised 72 cousins in heaven."
Right. If you talk trash about Muslims, you're evil. If you talk trash about poor blacks, you're evil. If you talk trash about poor whites, you're leftist and establishment approved.