Which UA subclasses do you think will make it this time?

Which Subclasses do you think will be approved?

  • Path of the Wild Soul

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • College of Eloquence

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • Twilight Domain

    Votes: 18 72.0%
  • Circle of Wildfire

    Votes: 15 60.0%
  • Rune Knight

    Votes: 17 68.0%
  • Psychic Warrior

    Votes: 14 56.0%
  • Way of the Astral Self

    Votes: 11 44.0%
  • Oath of Heroism

    Votes: 15 60.0%
  • Swarmkeeper

    Votes: 7 28.0%
  • The Revived

    Votes: 7 28.0%
  • Soulknife

    Votes: 18 72.0%
  • Aberrant Mind

    Votes: 19 76.0%
  • The Lurker in the Deep

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • Onomancy

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Psionics

    Votes: 7 28.0%
  • None

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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Leatherhead

Possibly a Idiot.
The approval rate needed for UA material to become official is 70% or so. Meaning 70% of the playertester base has to like it before it can potentially see a book. Otherwise the idea is scrapped, though individual abilities or parts of ideas that test well might be cannibalized for future UAs. Which has got me thinking about the latest UA, the Psionic one, and how that might mean that the previous Fighter, Rogue, and Wizard subclasses didn't hit the mark.

Personally, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Revived or Onomancy subclasses got scrapped, but the Rune Knight was cool.

Anyway: Which of the new UA subclasses do you think will make it?

Edit: Added the "None" option, because I know someone will pick it.
 
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Parmandur

Legend
The approval rate needed for UA material to become official is 70% or so. Meaning 70% of the playertester base has to like it before it can potentially see a book. Otherwise the idea is scrapped, though individual abilities or parts of ideas that test well might be cannibalized for future UAs. Which has got me thinking about the latest UA, the Psionic one, and how that might mean that the previous Fighter, Rogue, and Wizard subclasses didn't hit the mark.

Personally, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Revived or Onomancy subclasses got scrapped, but the Rune Knight was cool.

Anyway: Which of the new UA subclasses do you think will make it?

Edit: Added the "None" option, because I know someone will pick it.
I don't think the presence of three new options says much about how the others were received: they can have more than one Subclass for a Class in a book, after all.

I think most of these have a fair shot
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
For a lot of these it’s hard to say. There are a few shoe-ins, like the Twilight Domain and the Soul Knife, and a few that are almost certainly too out-there to pass muster, like Onomancy and the Swarmkeeper. But the rest I could easily see going either way.
 

gyor

Hero
For a lot of these it’s hard to say. There are a few shoe-ins, like the Twilight Domain and the Soul Knife, and a few that are almost certainly too out-there to pass muster, like Onomancy and the Swarmkeeper. But the rest I could easily see going either way.
The only one I feel was unpopular enough to not make it, was the Wild Soul Barbarian, but I could be wrong.
 

gyor

Hero
I've seen this a few times, can anyone point me to the source? What happens if a subclass gets 69% approval?
If it's the close I think they will just try a new iteration of it to see if it can get higher. Or if their is not enough time and they feel it has value, they might just make an adjustment and publish it anyways.
 

Kurotowa

Adventurer
I've seen this a few times, can anyone point me to the source? What happens if a subclass gets 69% approval?
It was mentioned in one of the D&D Beyond videos as a general guiding principle and some people have latched onto it as an absolute rule of populist driven game design. Which is certainly not true; in the same video this was mentioned, they said the Alchemist was under 70% and the Archivist was above, but they still held back the Archivist but released the Alchemist after some significant revision to it.

All we really know is that 70% is their general target number for "this is broadly popular". Something less popular will likely get revised or dropped. Something more popular will be a higher priority to finalize for publishing. Taking it as an absolute pass/fail with no further Dev input is misguided.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
For a lot of these it’s hard to say. There are a few shoe-ins, like the Twilight Domain and the Soul Knife, and a few that are almost certainly too out-there to pass muster, like Onomancy and the Swarmkeeper. But the rest I could easily see going either way.
I think Swarmkeeper is one of the most likely to pass.
 

Kurotowa

Adventurer
It might be. It’s pretty hard to get an accurate read on what the majority of players like without access to the survey data.
Indeed. I read D&D discussion here, a different forum, and at reddit. Opinions are rarely universal between the three. The only people with any idea what the survey data is actually like is WotC themselves.
 

Salthorae

Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
I think Swarmkeeper is one of the most likely to pass.
I think Swarmkeeper is an awesome idea/subclass. I don't think it's going to pass or get published.

Onomancy was one of my favorites, though I know there are issues with its implementation as is. I hope it sees official print, but I doubt it.

I think for me the for sure ones are Rune Knight, Soul Knife, & Twilight Domain.

I'd love to also see: College of Eloquence, Circle of Wildfire, Psychic Warrior, the Revived, Aberrant Mind, Lurker in the Deep, & Onomancy.

They all need some tweaking, but I love the theme and flavor of most of them.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I think Swarmkeeper is an awesome idea/subclass. I don't think it's going to pass or get published.
I think a lot of folks around here are overestimating how “weird” and “out there” an idea it is. To most players, I think it’s gonna come across as a pretty natural and obvious concept.
 
The approval rate needed for UA material to become official is 70% or so. Meaning 70% of the playertester base has to like it before it can potentially see a book. Otherwise the idea is scrapped, though individual abilities or parts of ideas that test well might be cannibalized for future UAs. Which has got me thinking about the latest UA, the Psionic one, and how that might mean that the previous Fighter, Rogue, and Wizard subclasses didn't hit the mark.

Personally, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Revived or Onomancy subclasses got scrapped, but the Rune Knight was cool.

Anyway: Which of the new UA subclasses do you think will make it?

Edit: Added the "None" option, because I know someone will pick it.
A poll on "which do you think will be scrapped" might be more telling.

I suspect we might have more subclasses still to come, to bring the total to two for each class.
 
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