D&D 5E Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a forum issue. (In my opinion)

[Ahnehnois]

Given the thread we're still posting in, I think system does matter, but for reasons much more important than some sort of pissing contest between completely different character classes.

 

[Ratskinner]

At the end of the day it's safe to say that system matters.

If it didn't, places like ENWorld could close up shop because there'd be nothing to talk about.

 

[Hussar]

Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a for...

The question is... for what? And on questions like that, we have a lot of disagreement.

System always matters. Trying to do a Paranoia game using DnD rules would not work. Using CoC rules for a Forgotten Realms game doesn't work.

System always matters.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Using CoC rules for a Forgotten Realms game doesn't work.

that sounds like it could be fun. It would be a different style to be sure... but it could work... INfact I'm going to pitch this game to my group...

 

[billd91]

System always matters. Trying to do a Paranoia game using DnD rules would not work. Using CoC rules for a Forgotten Realms game doesn't work.

System always matters.

It depends on what issues you're looking at. System doesn't make a difference for everything.

 

[sheadunne]

that sounds like it could be fun. It would be a different style to be sure... but it could work... INfact I'm going to pitch this game to my group...

Probably work better for Ravenloft

 

[Hussar]

Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a for...

It depends on what issues you're looking at. System doesn't make a difference for everything.

But it doesn't have to to matter. It doesn't have to make a difference 100% of the time to make a difference.

Heck look at all the 3e vs 4e hoopla. Mechanically those two systems are very close - far closer than say 3e and Basic DnD. Yet people swear up and down how far apart they are.

 

[Hussar]

Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a for...

Probably work better for Ravenloft

Would be fun.

But even in Ravenloft, doing it with CoC is going to give you a very different campaign than DnD.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Would be fun.

But even in Ravenloft, doing it with CoC is going to give you a very different campaign than DnD.

I think it would work very well for the setting, but would produce a much different style of play. I suppose with d20 cthulu you could do something closer to d&d ravenloft, because that still has levels. But chaosium cthulu would run very different. It actually might play a bit like hammer films, which would work because ravenloft drew a lot from that. The characters would basically be normal folk.

 

[Hussar]

Yeah I agree with that. The mechanics of DnD don't lend themselves to horror very well since the pc's individual power rises so fast.

A great deal of 2e Ravenloft required a lot of more free form play and ignoring a lot of mechanics. 3rd IMO would be even worse as a fit.

But there's an excellent example of a setting where it was setting first and mechanics second.