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"They are giving away items freely" means exactly that: stuff being given away for free. Perhaps you need to brush up on your English language skills.

That would mean there is nothing preventing them giving items away, or they are giving items away without regard for other considerations.

"They are giving away free items", "they are giving away items for free", or "they are giving away items at no charge" would give the sense you're after.

-Hyp.
 

Storm Raven said:


No, they would have said what Monte wrote, since he wrote the description.



That is the dumbest assertion I have heard in a while concerning the BBB. Many types of ink will write quite easily on waterproof material. Oil based inks for example.



"They are giving away items freely" means exactly that: stuff being given away for free. Perhaps you need to brush up on your English language skills.



Stop being a [text not posted because it would offend Eric's grandmother] and take a few courses in language comprehension before you post anything. It is explicit. It says "freely". This has nothing to do with your idiotic assertion that this allows writing on waterproof pages. It means "freely", as in "for free".

Perhaps you would like to check out dictionary.com, which states that frrely is a synonym for "free", under which defintion you find:

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WOW

Some one really doesn’t want there favorite toy taken away.

I will not comment on any of your blatant flaming as you are obviously very selfish and closed minded.

Learn to play well with others and have a valid debate without resorting to childish comments. (That is unless you are a child. Then have fun.)
Other wise since you will not consider another view point, I will not comment other than to let others know this is your opinion and nothing else.


Have a good day.
 
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How are people still arguing this, when the writer of the passage in question has clarified its meaning? Jimminy cricket, fellas! This isn't corporate contract law, here!

Hypersmurf, your reading of the passage is indeed legit. But so is Monte's reading of the passage. Go to Dictionary.com, and you'll find that one definition of "freely" is "without charge."

Why, when the author of the passage has told you which definition he was using, would you insist on using an alternate definition?

Daniel
 
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Pielorinho said:
How are people still arguing this, when the writer of the passage in question has clarified its meaning? Jimminy cricket, fellas! This isn't corporate contract law, here!

Hypersmurf, your reading of the passage is indeed legit. But so is Monte's reading of the passage. Go to Dictionary.com, and you'll find that one definition of "freely" is "without charge."

Why, when the author of the passage has told you which definition he was using, would you insist on using an alternate definition?

Daniel

For me its because Monte is not longer part of WotC and no longer has testers to help him give sound rulings.

Just becuase the writer says he reads it that way does not mean that Officaly it is that way. Monte has his own opinion on many rules that are not official. The only reason I took his work before wa because he worked for the company and had testers/editors giving sound advice (or at least some one actually thought about it before souting off some unballencing rule call).

I look at Montes web site and more than half of it will never be in one of my games because I feel he is a power gamer and catters to those types.


He is not official. Dont say he is.
 

Hypersmurf said:


The American Heritage dictionary?

Check your sig.

-Hyp.

:D Point taken. Although I'd hate to see what Tolkien had to say about that atrocity you New Zealanders speak ;).

Seriously, dude, I'll change my view on this as soon as you show me the British dictionary that Monte was using when he wrote this passage.

Daniel
 

melkoriii said:
He is not official. Dont say he is.

Warning noted. I never said he's official, and I never will.

What I will say is this:

1) The interpretation that scribing in the book happens "at no charge" is a perfectly valid interpretation, according to a widely-accepted dictionary in the US.
2) The author of the passage tells us his intent on writing that passage.
3) Nobody else involved in the project has gainsaid him on this matter.
4) It's absurd to hold to a different interpretation, when the one the author recommends is linguistically correct and nobody else with any say-so in the books has used a different interpretation.

If you want to rule it differently in your campaign, bully for you. But acting like the "at no charge" interpretation is in any way incorrect is practically surreal.

Daniel
 

"Freely Accepts" as in "no cost to scribe" is the meaning used by two of the original game designers (Monte Cooke and Skip Williams).

Monte made this clarification while he was still with WOTC, and was still "official". Same thing with Skip, in his guise as The Sage. Monte has re-iterated it on his message boards, but I remember when it was originally clarified and reported by this very site.


It is also the Interpretation used in the Living Greyhawk campaign, which is the "Official" WOTC RPGA campaign.

Every single source I have been able to find (official or "semi-official") agrees on this interpretation.


What sources do you have that says your interpretation is the most correct one? The dictionary doesn't count, since it is defined both ways in the dictionary.

What indicates that your interpetation is more official than the authors?

(one more thing: "Monte is official." There. I said it. Neener neener neener. ;) )
 
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I accepted in the very first post I made in this thread that Monte has ruled it costs no money to scribe.

But if that was his intention, then his choice of words was very, very poor... because despite the fact that the American Heritage dictionary gives "without charge" as a definition, the word simply is not used that way.

I'm not claiming to be the official version.

But the wording is poor, and the price is ridiculous.

-Hyp.
 

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