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[Jahydin]

Again, I'd question the interpretation which ends with "a few would say that 4th edition was good". He's got a pretty clear bias here.

Very true!

Never minding that in the entire run of 4e, there was never so much as a whisper about an MMO, plus the fact that 4e, as a game, would absolutely fail as an MMO.

Yeah, I think that was poor wording on his part. Did some more digging and looks like @darjr had the right idea:

Past D&D video games were missing one key component: The dungeon master. Everything was fixed and scripted. The software suite, however, is actually D&D. The players and the DM communicate as if they were sitting around a physical table rather than a virtual one with virtual models and dice. The DM has the same powers he or she would have in a traditional game, but all the dice and math are taken care of by the system. Character sheets are even updated automatically.

So "MMO" in the sense it would be a massive social media site where people would meet up, chat, blog, and jump into games with each other via VTT.

But still, I'm heavily under the impression this entire game was built with a VTT that took care of all the busy work in mind. I'm grateful it never panned out though, cause I'm sure it would have turned into microtransaction hell.

 

[darjr]

Has this article been posted?

This article mentions digital assets for sale including miniatures and terrain. Which Id forgotten about.

Why Fourth Edition Never Saved Dungeons & Dragons

“Fourth edition Dungeons & Dragons is all about taking that things that work in D&D, keeping them in the game, and fixing everything else,” designer Mike Mearls wrote after the edition’s an…

dmdavid.com

 

[darjr]

Here is the reference from Diddier from WotCs original forums, where he states that random packs of digital miniatures are being considered.

Note this is I think the first mention of randomized packs but the question was promoted from previous information about digital minis being for sale. And Didier does say that others ways to acquire, i.e. buy, them was being considered.

Note also it is an official source and not some random talk.

Some D&D Insider bits (Update 9/13: Lots of new info)

Apparently Didier Monin has been answering a lot of questions on the D&D Insider on the WotC forums since the middle of last week. There has been a bunch of information given, and I thought I'd try to condense it. These will be paraphrased questions. To see the full question and answer...

www.enworld.org

 

[darjr]

@Morrus do you have any memory of the last few things WotC worked with ENWORLD or you on? Weather it was a press release or some other thing?

 

[haakon1]

Has this article been posted?

This article mentions digital assets for sale including miniatures and terrain. Which Id forgotten about.

Why Fourth Edition Never Saved Dungeons & Dragons

“Fourth edition Dungeons & Dragons is all about taking that things that work in D&D, keeping them in the game, and fixing everything else,” designer Mike Mearls wrote after the edition’s an…

dmdavid.com

Really good article about what was wrong with 4e and why it happened. Thanks for sharing.

If the choice was D&D stopped being sold for a few years because Hasbro thought it wasn’t profitable enough, or the actual history of 4e as “rushed” and “controversial“ design, to put it kindly, I wish Hasbro would have been sold it to the fans, like the Green Bay Packers. No reason it couldn’t be a fan-owned corporation run for the benefit of the game.

 

[Cordwainer Fish]

If the choice was D&D stopped being sold for a few years because Hasbro thought it wasn’t profitable enough, or the actual history of 4e as “rushed” and “controversial“ design, to put it kindly, I wish Hasbro could have been honest about, and sold it to the fans, like the Green Bay Packers.

Why would the Packers buy D&D?

 

[haakon1]

Why would the Packers buy D&D?

What I meant is the Packers are fan owned. They sold the ownership rights to fans. It’s a big thing in Wisconsin to be an owner. Hopefully clearer now.

 

[darjr]

I do wish they’d just OGL license 4e.

 

[Riley]

I do wish they’d just OGL license 4e.

Goodman Games and Kobold Press both did solid 4e-compatible products back in the day. There’s also 13th Age. Is there something to be gained from a 4e OGL that can’t be managed via the 3e (and/or 5e) OGL and some clever tapdancing?

 

[darjr]

Goodman Games and Kobold Press both did solid 4e-compatible products back in the day. There’s also 13th Age. Is there something to be gained from a 4e OGL that can’t be managed via the 3e (and/or 5e) OGL and some clever tapdancing?

A much easier time making a clone rule set with WotC blessing via the OGL. A much better gamble.