D&D (2024) You're not planning on getting 2024 D&D? Why is that?

You're not planning on getting 2024 D&D? Why is that?



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Let me start by saying I'm not outraged or whatever.

Things have been nudging me toward not investing in this edition/whatever, like the OGL fiasco and more recent circus acts, the prevalence of 5E options, my lack of interest in getting dragged into a digital gaming space for my face-to-face tabletop gaming, etc.

But the straw that broke the camel's back for me was the removal of personality traits, ideals, bonds, and flaws.

It just feels like a bit of a slap in the face, but I'll give them points for honesty: there's the old adage about believing people when they tell you who they are. WOTC doesn't care about the social and exploration pillars much, and that's a thing they can do and that people will not care about or even like. Cool!

But for me, I just...want something else.
 


I stopped playing D&D in 2019. After 39 years it was time to let go and try other fantasy games. Now, when I want crunch I play Fantasy AGE and when I want gritty I play Dragonbane. Buying the new D&D is not in the cards.
 




But the straw that broke the camel's back for me was the removal of personality traits, ideals, bonds, and flaws.

I can understand how people might want these in the game, but other than right at the start of 5e, I don't think anyone I know uses them. They're such an afterthought for my groups that I'm only now learning that they aren't 5.5e.
WHAT! They're gone! Wow, that was one of the most important parts of 5th edition for me. I mean it, I'm not joking or being sarcastic.
 


Nobody I game with has said they are getting the new books.

I play in 2 weekly groups and one biweekly group. All of us at some point played 5e. One weekly group is using OSE now (I'm the DM), the biweekly group is now playing Dragonbane (really fun - you should check it out if you haven't yet played it!), and one weekly game is still playing 5e. Some overlap of players between groups, but 14 total players. While a small sample size, it's fairly representative across a 30 year age range, with some having played multiple editions over several decades, and a few that have only played 5e. Three of them have successfully funded and published RPG Kickstarter campaigns, and another has a playtest credit in XGTE (along with 1000 other people) which is to say that as a whole they are hardcore gamers.

I recently polled the 5e group if they were aware that new books were coming out, and if anyone was considering switching the game to use the new rules. Of the 5 other players, one had heard something about it and the rest hadn't. Our campaigns usually last over a year and then someone else takes the DM chair. Next month we're starting a new campaign using 5e which will probably take us into 2026 before we revisit a rules change.

I've been holding out hope for some 50th anniversary Greyhawk love from WotC, and my OSE game is set in Greyhawk, so I probably will get the new DMG just for the Greyhawk content and map.

It seems like this new edition isn't something that people have been clamoring for, but rather an attempt to reset the marketplace so that people will migrate to WotC's proprietary VTT where they can be transformed from game owners to game subscribers, just like every other company trying to turn us all into digital serfs.
 

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