Rogue's Sneak Attack

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CervantesIII

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #1

This is a question woke up in another forum, where someone said that a rogue can sneak attack one time for attack in a turn.
For example, a rogue with three attacks could sneak attack three times a turn ON THE SAME FOE!
Now, this led to a discussion long thousands of posts, but without solution.
Effectively, on the player's guide there's no indication about it, and you can understand both one or other things.
What's your opinion?

 

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Sound of Azure

Contemplative Soul

• Apr 9, 2007

• #2

You can sneak attack as many times as you can make an attack in a round, provided you still meet the conditions for a sneak attack for each attack.

There are some class abilities, feats, spells, and other abilities that create new situations here you may sneak attack.

 

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CervantesIII

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #3

Can you make some examples? It's interesting!

 

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hong

WotC's bitch

• Apr 9, 2007

• #4

Examples of what?

 

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javcs

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #5

CervantesIII said:

Can you make some examples? It's interesting!

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Examples? Of a rogue SA multiple times on his turn? Outside of Flat-footed opponents?

You have a rogue with a BAB of, say, +9, which gives him an iterative attack in a full attack at +4. (to have this, he must be a level 12 or 13 rogue or multiclassed, let's say he's level 12)
He's flanking a giant with his tank friend, and makes a full attack on the giant, he gets a first attack at +9 (plus other modifiers) dealing damage equal to weapon damage+modifiers +6d6 SA if he hits, his second attack is at +4 (plus other modifiers) dealing damage equal to weapon damage+modifiers +6d6 SA if he hits.

 

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Nonlethal Force

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #6

Yep, that's pretty much it. For a rogue to get multiple sneak attacks, he just has to be able to have multiple attacks. [Which is true for any character]. It can be through itterative attacks, through hastedness, whatever.

You think this is bad, start crunching the numbers for a TWF hasted rogue with multiple itterative attacks with both weapons! Granted, because of the feats they'd need to burn to accomplish this, their skill will likely be pretty vanilla - for a rogue. And since they're only a 3/4 BAB progression the TWF will hurt them in feel more than a typical ranger build. But when they roll well, they do nice damage!

So long as the rogue qualifies for a sneak attack on his fist attack, he can get a sneak attack for the rest of his attacks that action (itteratives, hastedness, etc).

 

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javcs

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #7

Nonlethal Force said:

So long as the rogue qualifies for a sneak attack on his fist attack, he can get a sneak attack for the rest of his attacks that action (itteratives, hastedness, etc).

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Not quite - he has to remain qualifing for sneak attack on all of his attacks. Otherwise, a rogue could get a lot more use out of invisibility at higher level combat (full attack +SA on all attacks), which means something like swift invisibility is more like greater swift invisibility.

 

Nonlethal Force

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #8

javcs said:

Not quite - he has to remain qualifing for sneak attack on all of his attacks. Otherwise, a rogue could get a lot more use out of invisibility at higher level combat (full attack +SA on all attacks), which means something like swift invisibility is more like greater swift invisibility.

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Well, specifically for the case of invisibility, that is true. But in my mind I was speaking more generally to flat-footed and flanking sneak attack. But thanks for the clarification. Sneak Attack gained through spell use is often more tricky.

 

Nail

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #9

CervantesIII said:

Now, this led to a discussion long thousands of posts, but without solution.

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That's not a great reflection on that particular message board....if I were you, I wouldn't bother checking there for rules answers anymore.

The answer is pretty clear, and printed in the appropriate section of the PH and SRD:

SRD-Classes-Rogue-Sneak Attack said:

The rogue’s attack deals extra damage any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the rogue flanks her target.

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For example, if a rogue was flanking an orc, the rogue would get a sneak attack on each of his attacks.

Etc.

 

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CervantesIII

First Post

• Apr 9, 2007

• #10

Thank you all, guys!