Mad at Paizo?

Mercador

Adventurer
On a recent news post about PF2E Bestiary 2, I was wondering if it was deseperation that announcing stuff so much in advance, to which point Morrus told me that I might be an outlier;

I feel that you might be an outlier with this perception.

To which point I'm starting to wonder why I am so mad at them? It's totally normal for them to go forward and wanting to renew their franchise, DnD did that 5 times already (and I guess we'll see 6th by 2025). So why am I that mad at them? The only thing that I could find is that I'm sad to see all those books going to waste but that's only a material issue. It's like I feel betrayed.

Am I alone with this sentiment? It's a not a joke question, I'm truly curious about this.
 

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Enrico Poli1

Adventurer
For them, it's a mere matter of survival. PF1 was saturated. They had to publish a new edition and re-do all the material, or die.

I am personally grateful to Paizo. They produced Age of Worms, Savage Tide and other fantastic adventure paths.

But I don't think they'll be able to challenge 5e, whose lessons they failed to learn from.
I'm done with unnecessarily complex games.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
On a recent news post about PF2E Bestiary 2, I was wondering if it was deseperation that announcing stuff so much in advance, to which point Morrus told me that I might be an outlier;



To which point I'm starting to wonder why I am so mad at them? It's totally normal for them to go forward and wanting to renew their franchise, DnD did that 5 times already (and I guess we'll see 6th by 2025). So why am I that mad at them? The only thing that I could find is that I'm sad to see all those books going to waste but that's only a material issue. It's like I feel betrayed.

Am I alone with this sentiment? It's a not a joke question, I'm truly curious about this.

To clarify, I didn’t comment on the probability of your being mad at Paizo for some reason, merely on your perception of them announcing a product as seeming “desperate”. I’m sure plenty of peopleare mad at companies for making new editions.
 

Retreater

Legend
Pathfinder 1 had a darned good run of a decade. Paizo (and 3PPs) made a lot of great material for it that created countless hours of enjoyment for many fans.
Sure, I purchased a lot of material for it that I still haven't had the opportunity to use. I've done that for every edition and game system I've ever played. That's on me. I can't blame Paizo for publishing a new edition when I haven't run all of The Mummy's Mask or used every monster in the Bestiary 4. That's like blaming Sony for making a PS5 when you still have PS4 games to play.
The good news is you can still play PF1 material (just like I enjoy playing classic video games). I'm sure you won't have a hard time finding people who still love PF1 to share in the experiences with you.
 

Because you are emotionally invested in 1E. Maybe you have a history with D&D 3/3.5 and felt that when you moved to PF you found a "forever home"?

It's understandable to feel emotional about something changing or ending. But ask yourself this, is there enough 1E material available that you could play 1E for the rest of your life and not duplicate or run out of stuff? I suspect the answer is yes. So then it's not like you are being "left behind" but rather that their is nothing more you need so Paizo has moved on to something new...
 

DaveMage

Slumbering in Tsar
Since playing RPGs are emotional buy-ins, it makes sense that you'd be mad at the company that is no longer making the game you like.

And while I too am disappointed they went with PF2, I have so much content for PF1, that I can stay with PF1 for the next 10-20 years and not remotely run out of stuff to do. :)
 



Doug McCrae

Legend
I occasionally get angry if I buy an rpg product and it turns out to be terrible, which has certainly happened a few times. But I don't get mad at rpg companies for publishing new rpgs or new editions - it's what they do. Indeed, it's what they have to do to stay in business.
 

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