New Kelvin Timeline Star Trek film goes into production late 2022

[pukunui]

The main thing I dislike about JJ’s handling of sci-fi movies is the way he makes space feel small instead of big.

Like showing Spock watching his home planet implode with his naked eye from another planet.

Or Han, Finn, et al watching the First Order’s super-weapon destroying the Hosnian system with their naked eyes from a planet who knows how far away …

 

[Mallus]

I always thought an interesting premise for a ST game would be a ship and crew assigned specifically to find and deal with lost tech and dead civilizations - in part to find and deal with them before the Klingons (or whoever) do.

Like IPX from Babylon 5 or ExoGeni from Mass Effect. Great idea!

 

[Ryujin]

Like IPX from Babylon 5 or ExoGeni from Mass Effect. Great idea!

Many, many years ago I did that as the basis for my Space Opera campaign. There was a single module that dealt with Forerunner tech and I expanded upon it, splitting it into a series of adventures that culminated in finding the BIG Macguffin. Was a pretty fun time. I gave the party a clapped out police cutter from one of the starcraft books, which was still better than 90% of the off-the-rack ships in a Millennium Falcon kind of way, slipped in other adventures between the beats of the main adventure, and just rolled with it.

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As far as another Kelvin Universe movie goes, I'm out. They have a great cast and somehow managed to squander it.

 

[pukunui]

As far as another Kelvin Universe movie goes, I'm out. They have a great cast and somehow managed to squander it.

I’m still in. I enjoyed all three of the existing ones, as did my older two daughters. I’m sure we’ll go see this new one when it comes out.

I thought Chris Pine didn’t want to do another one, though.

 

[payn]

I’m still in. I enjoyed all three of the existing ones, as did my older two daughters. I’m sure we’ll go see this new one when it comes out.

I thought Chris Pine didn’t want to do another one, though.

A dump truck of money backed into the driveway always helps.

 

[Mort]

I'm excited!

First, I really and truly enjoy the cast. (Obviously, RIP Anton Yelchin ... such a sad and senseless tragedy). I'll watch Chris Pine in pretty much anything ... he's likeable. Is he in any other upcoming movies I should know about ......

Anyway, the Kelvin franchise had a good starting movie (not great, but good), a mediocre second movie, and a banger of a third. Beyond might not be a great movie, but it was a GREAT STAR TREK MOVIE.

Seriously. Ponder this- if someone said to make a Star Trek episode, or, more specifically, make a TOS episode, but MAKE IT A MOVIE, I think Beyond comes the absolute closest.

Is it the best Star Trek movie? No. That will always be KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN. But it's definitely top-tier Star Trek. In fact, I'd go so far as to say, three movies in, that the Kelvin franchise has the best batting percentage of any of the Star Trek move franchises.

Yeah, I went there. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

I love the actors in rebooted trek franchise - I think they nail their roles. BUT:

I barely tolerated the 2009 movie, there was just so much stupid! and my wife (a life long Trek fan) hated the movie so much that she didn't watch anything trek related until Picard (she loves Patrick Stewart too much to stay away).

The second Star Trek (into Darkness) worse, I would not characterize it as mediocre but as absolutely terrible. I LOVE Benedict Cumberbatch and I still hated this movie - it was awful.

The third Star Trek Movie was good. It had a fun premise, good action and an actually decent twist that was very, very Star Trek - I thought they really got things back on track and was actually sorry that things fell apart after that (moviewise).

So I guess I'm cautiously optimistic - love the cast. Hope the writers and director learned a few things from the first two and that forthcoming movies are in the vein of the third one.

 

[Ryujin]

I love the actors in rebooted trek franchise - I think they nail their roles. BUT:

I barely tolerated the 2009 movie, there was just so much stupid! and my wife (a life long Trek fan) hated the movie so much that she didn't watch anything trek related until Picard (she loves Patrick Stewart too much to stay away).

The second Star Trek (into Darkness) worse, I would not characterize it as mediocre but as absolutely terrible. I LOVE Benedict Cumberbatch and I still hated this movie - it was awful.

The third Star Trek Movie was good. It had a fun premise, good action and an actually decent twist that was very, very Star Trek - I thought they really got things back on track and was actually sorry that things fell apart after that (moviewise).

So I guess I'm cautiously optimistic - love the cast. Hope the writers and director learned a few things from the first two and that forthcoming movies are in the vein of the third one.

My experience was similar, though for me the downward trend continued. If I'd wanted to see a "Fast and Furious" movie I'd have gone to one. The only reason why I saw the third, at all, was when I got to the theatre, I realized that I was wrong about the release date of the movie I really wanted to see.

 

[MGibster]

Our space program is all but defunct. Scientists are ridiculed. Technology is largely seen as a means of controlling the population than freeing. The idealism of the 60s grew into the disillusionment of the 70s, greed of the 80s, apathy of the 90s. Yes, there was push-back in the 60s, but there was optimism that the world was improving and that change was possible. The past 50-60 years have shown that Star Trek-like progress is impossible. It's as much a fantasy as LOTR or Marvel, except that it has the sheen of "one day, we'll achieve this."

Barry McGuire's version of "Eve of Destruction" hit #1 in the United States back in 1965. This is a bleak song that was controversial at the time and many radio stations refused to play it. As I was growing up, this song wasn't really played very often on any of the oldies stations, because, I think, it's depressing. Star Trek must have seemed stupidly optimistic to a lot of people with a black woman, an Asian, and a Russian all serving together as officers on the bridge of a space ship. In the 1968 episode "The Ultimate Computer," we're introduced to the Federation's top most expert in computers, Dr. Richard Daystrum, a black man which was wildly optimistic at the time given the roles that were available to most black actors.

 

[Morrus]

The main issue I have with the Kelvin movies is they turn warp travel into something that takes moments instead of days. They use the Star Wars model (cross the galaxy in a few hours) rather than the Star Trek model (cross the galaxy in a decade).

Part of the essence of Trek to me is the exploration, and that means they need to not be minutes away from backup. They need to be out there on their own.

 

[Umbran]

The main issue I have with the Kelvin movies is they turn warp travel into something that takes moments instead of days. They use the Star Wars model (cross the galaxy in a few hours) rather than the Star Trek model (cross the galaxy in a decade).

Part of the essence of Trek to me is the exploration, and that means they need to not be minutes away from backup. They need to be out there on their own.

And the introduction of interstellar transporters doesn't help.