D&D 5E D&D New Edition Design Looks Soon?

WotC’s Ray Winninger has hinted on Twitter that we may be seeing something of the 2024 next edition of D&D soon — “you’ll get a first look at some of the new design work soon.”.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

People aged 12-24, or younger.

even that those 24 year olds who would be interested in 2024 are not now intrested in 2022 at 22? that again seems quite bad a module "We have the biggest number right now, but instead of selling them this trilogy of books we are hopeing to get MORE people"

Honestly this list proves @Mind of tempest point entirely.

However, there is an Arcane half-caster Gish in 5E: the Artificer.

how does it prove his point. We see the archtype with story and feel come up over and over again. Pushing bladesinger, eldritch knight and hex blade alone out of there classes and into 1 as 3 subclasses alone would be a HUGE start... and agian that is taking nothing from swordmage itself.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

The other reason I feel confident in talking about grind in 4e.... I wrote Stalker0's Guide to Anti-Grind

and it probably remains even to this day the most popular and complimented article I have ever written. I think that highlights that a lot of people on the forums were experiencing 4e grind.

that is a good article one I think I used back then

 

[TwoSix]

The point of all this? So what's 5.5 going to look like? Look at the past 10 years of what is popular in nerd pop culture. I think that will drive some of the things we'll see in the future. And I think it's why in the past couple of years, the game has been presented much more colorful and diverse because that's what's been happening in our pop culture as a whole. Sacred cows and long-standing assumptions about who we are as people aren't inherently ascribed to any longer.

Considering this, the recent inclusion of throwbacks to the D&D cartoon makes some sense; the D&D cartoon was an early for of isekai, which is a dominant genre in a lot of recent pop fantasy.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Here's something else that I believe is going to be a bitter pill for some folks.

WoTC did make an effort to bring back older gamers in 5e. They consulted with old school fans (which in hindsight backfired based on who they reached out to), and introduced elements some of us old school folks preferred.

But let's be honest. They are a business, and as my post above illustrated, they are going to focus on trying to capture the biggest market demographic. Us old geezers are a much smaller % of gamers now than we were 10 years ago (not just because we're aging, but as the total demographic increases, our ratio gets smaller and smaller). Newer editions of D&D are not going to make a nod to us like 5e did.

And that's OK. I am not a gatekeeper of the game, I believe the more people who play (even if it's not an edition I prefer), the better for all of us, and I still have all my favorite editions to play.

 

[Reynard]

Here's something else that I believe is going to be a bitter pill for some folks.

WoTC did make an effort to bring back older gamers in 5e. They consulted with old school fans (which in hindsight backfired based on who they reached out to), and introduced elements some of us old school folks preferred.

But let's be honest. They are a business, and as my post above illustrated, they are going to focus on trying to capture the biggest market demographic. Us old geezers are a much smaller % of gamers now than we were 10 years ago (not just because we're aging, but as the total demographic increases, our ratio gets smaller and smaller). Newer editions of D&D are not going to make a nod to us like 5e did.

And that's OK. I am not a gatekeeper of the game, I believe the more people who play (even if it's not an edition I prefer), the better for all of us, and I still have all my favorite editions to play.

But is this a "new edition"? We don't know yet.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

WoTC did make an effort to bring back older gamers in 5e. They consulted with old school fans (which in hindsight backfired based on who they reached out to), and introduced elements some of us old school folks preferred.

But let's be honest. They are a business, and as my post above illustrated, they are going to focus on trying to capture the biggest market demographic.

i honestly think they will try to step forward but be more cation then the 4e jump

 

[darjr]

As of right now the PHB is #58 out of all books on Amazon US.

 

[Sacrosanct]

But is this a "new edition"? We don't know yet.

Well, "newer" or "revised" or whatever term you want to use. I think it's clear, especially based on what's been released over the past couple years, that they are taking a clear direction towards the younger generations and us grognards aren't going to be considered in design refinements. I'm not saying that bitterly, as a grog myself. That's just good business sense, and I certainly don't have some weird sense of entitlement just because I was there 45 years ago that the game should still cater to my preferences.

 

[Reynard]

Well, "newer" or "revised" or whatever term you want to use. I think it's clear, especially based on what's been released over the past couple years, that they are taking a clear direction towards the younger generations and us grognards aren't going to be considered in design refinements. I'm not saying that bitterly, as a grog myself. That's just good business sense, and I certainly don't have some weird sense of entitlement just because I was there 45 years ago that the game should still cater to my preferences.

Sure, but we are still in the stage of arguing about whether these represent a erratta'd 5E, a 5.5 or a 6E. If it ISN'T one of the latter 2, it doesn't seem like it could be a move to capture more younger players since 5E wasn't designed to do that (but did anyway, thanks more to the happy accidents of Stranger Things and Critical Role popularity than anything special about 5E, IMO).

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Sure, but we are still in the stage of arguing about whether these represent a erratta'd 5E, a 5.5 or a 6E.

I doubt it is the first. I doubt they will name it the second. I am hopeing for the third