Spoilers Deadpool & Wolverine (Spoilers)

[Clint_L]

I gave it three stars and, as I stated, enjoyed it. But it feels like a narrative dead-end. Which, to be fair, is what I think of the entire multiverse arc of the MCU. Nothing matters because it's all just a dream one of infinite possibilities, and so everything is a What If...? comic, basically. Which are fun - I loved them as a kid - but only work as novelties, not as the basis of the main storyline.

As for what serious parts: the Logan/X-23 storyline is not being played for laughs, nor is Logan's character arc (such as it is), nor is Deadpool's character arc (such as it is).

MCU movies, as I posted earlier, increasingly justify Scorcese's "theme park ride" criticism, IMO. I like theme park rides. But the experience isn't exactly deep. Up to End Game, a lot of Marvel movies had something interesting to say. Since then...maybe Shang Chi and No Way Home? D+W is an enjoyable but pointless movie, a novelty. I don't think it's out of line to suggest that the MCU has been more, and could be again, if they get back to focusing on character and story.

 

[bloodtide]

What's also interesting is the target audience... a 23 year friend of mind had no idea who any of that team was. And why would she?

The Target Audience for Deadpool is much more the way over 30 people...really 40-50.

To get more then half of the jokes and gags and everything else....you had to be reading Marvel comics starting in the late 80's/early 90's. This would mostly be people that were kids or young adults...and the bit rarer adults.

I'm sure most people saw the Wolverine on a Cross On Bed of Skulls as just a cool visual.......but I literary own that comic(Uncanny X-Men #251, from 1989). I recognized it instantly.

And the really deep cuts like the Liefeld's Just Feet....

And as Ryan Reynolds wrote some of it....I'd guess the 'contemporary jokes'....you'd get the jokes written by a near 50 year old.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

The Target Audience for Deadpool is much more the way over 30 people...really 40-50.

To get more then half of the jokes and gags and everything else....you had to be reading Marvel comics starting in the late 80's/early 90's. This would mostly be people that were kids or young adults...and the bit rarer adults.

I'm sure most people saw the Wolverine on a Cross On Bed of Skulls as just a cool visual.......but I literary own that comic(Uncanny X-Men #251, from 1989). I recognized it instantly.

And the really deep cuts like the Liefeld's Just Feet....

And as Ryan Reynolds wrote some of it....I'd guess the 'contemporary jokes'....you'd get the jokes written by a near 50 year old.

You don't have to get every inside joke to enjoy the movie thankfully, so 20 year Olds should enjoy it just fine without getting every reference.

 

[pukunui]

You don't have to get every inside joke to enjoy the movie thankfully, so 20 year Olds should enjoy it just fine without getting every reference.

My teenage daughters (16 and 18) have enjoyed all three Deadpool movies.

 

[Meech17]

You don't have to get every inside joke to enjoy the movie thankfully, so 20 year Olds should enjoy it just fine without getting every reference.

Yeah. My girlfriend for instance is 30, but she's not into superheroes or comics. She had no idea who Blade, Elecktra, or Gambit were. She still enjoyed the movie.

I'm even a fairly bad superhero fan.. I haven't seen half of the MCU films (Still haven't seen the first two Avengers, for instance.) and I'm not a big comic guy. Like I recognized the Wolverine on the cross reference, and I was familiar with the alternate brown/tan costume, but that's just stuff I've gathered via osmosis from spending most of my life in nerd spaces, even though I've never interacted with the content those things reference directly. Nothing important hinged on those references. It was still a fun montage even if you weren't directly cashing in the fan service payments.

One thing I'll note.. The Wolverine mask looked sick.. And was a fun reveal and looked good in the final fight scene..

Right afterwards where they are trying to have a serious conversation though... It was a little distracting.

 

[Older Beholder]

MCU movies, as I posted earlier, increasingly justify Scorcese's "theme park ride" criticism, IMO. I like theme park rides. But the experience isn't exactly deep. Up to End Game, a lot of Marvel movies had something interesting to say.

I've never understood the 'theme park ride' criticism.
They're making films that are more fun and exciting than they've ever been.
This is the aim of action films, does anyway watch action films for their depth?

The closest a film has ever gotten to a theme park ride for me was Infinity War, which is one of the better MCU films.
Not to mention the 'theme park ride' movies are ridiculously popular, as I'd count also Avatar as a theme park ride type film.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I've never understood the 'theme park ride' criticism.
They're making films that are more fun and exciting than they've ever been.
This is the aim of action films, does anyway watch action films for their depth?

The closest a film has ever gotten to a theme park ride for me was Infinity War, which is one of the better MCU films.
Not to mention the 'theme park ride' movies are ridiculously popular, as I'd count also Avatar as a theme park ride type film.

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Candy is nice, and it sells well, but if all food producers switched over to making nothing but candy…

 

[Older Beholder]

Candy is nice, and it sells well, but if all food producers switched over to making nothing but candy…

Candy is actually bad for your health, superhero films aren't.

Nor has anybody suggesting that only Superhero films be made, I'd be against the idea of that was ever suggested (as it is, Superhero films are still one of the more niche genres). It's much more that Marty is suggesting that they should stop making these film as they aren't valid forms of entertainment due to the fact that they're much too entertaining.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Candy is actually bad for your health,

In small quantities, it's fine. Everyone needs a treat sometimes. But take away other options and soon people become desperate for salad.

 

[TiQuinn]

Candy is actually bad for your health, superhero films aren't.

Nor has anybody suggesting that only Superhero films be made, I'd be against the idea of that was ever suggested (as it is, Superhero films are still one of the more niche genres). It's much more that Marty is suggesting that they should stop making these film as they aren't valid forms of entertainment due to the fact that they're much too entertaining.

It’s not a perfect analogy obviously. The problem is the number of boxes for films has decreased dramatically. There’s the superhero box. There’s the romantic comedy box. There’s the horror movie box. There’s the kids animation box. In November/December, you get the brief “prestige movie” box for those wanting Academy Awards. And after that, you start running out of boxes unless you have same name value like Martin Scorsese or you are being distributed by A24.