D&D 5E A character who is not a monk, attacking unarmed strikes with or without proficiency?

[maritimo80]

A character who is not a monk, attacking unarmed strikes with or without proficiency?

 

[jodyjohnson]

An unarmed strike is a simple weapon so any character proficient in simple weapons gets a proficiency bonus. Some classes don't even get Simple Weapon proficiency and wouldn't.

 

[maritimo80]

A character who is not a monk, attacking unarmed strikes with or without proficiency?

Is there a class for example it is not proficient in Simple Weapons?

If that's what you are saying why the feat Tavern Brawler says ........." You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes. ":


T a v e r n B r a w l e r
Accustomed to rough-and-tumble fighting using
whatever w eapons happen to be at hand, you gain the
following benefits:
• Increase your Strength or Constitution score by 1,
to a maximum o f 20.
• You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes.
• Your unarmed strike uses a d4 for damage.
• When you hit a creature with an unarmed strike or an
improvised weapon on your turn, you can use a bonus
action to attempt to grapple the target.

 

[Blue]

An unarmed strike is a simple weapon so any character proficient in simple weapons gets a proficiency bonus. Some classes don't even get Simple Weapon proficiency and wouldn't.

Agreed. It's listed as a simple weapon on the weapon chart under equipment.

 

[maritimo80]

Agreed. It's listed as a simple weapon on the weapon chart under equipment.

BUT.......

If that's what you are saying why the feat Tavern Brawler says ........." You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes. ":


T a v e r n B r a w l e r
Accustomed to rough-and-tumble fighting using
whatever w eapons happen to be at hand, you gain the
following benefits:
• Increase your Strength or Constitution score by 1,
to a maximum o f 20.
• You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes.
• Your unarmed strike uses a d4 for damage.
• When you hit a creature with an unarmed strike or an
improvised weapon on your turn, you can use a bonus
action to attempt to grapple the target.

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showth...kes-with-or-without-proficiency#ixzz3Vb0JgZDS

 

[Jeff Carlsen]

Many feats grant the proficiency they depend on. They're generally intended to work for any class.



Also, I believe the wizard is a class without proficiency in simple weapons.

 

[Tormyr]

BUT.......

If that's what you are saying why the feat Tavern Brawler says ........." You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes. ":


T a v e r n B r a w l e r
Accustomed to rough-and-tumble fighting using
whatever w eapons happen to be at hand, you gain the
following benefits:
• Increase your Strength or Constitution score by 1,
to a maximum o f 20.
• You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes.
• Your unarmed strike uses a d4 for damage.
• When you hit a creature with an unarmed strike or an
improvised weapon on your turn, you can use a bonus
action to attempt to grapple the target.

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showth...kes-with-or-without-proficiency#ixzz3Vb0JgZDS

Wizards don't have proficiency in all simple weapons for one. The feat just makes sure you can use unarmed strikes to the fullest if you choose the feat. This way wizards can also choose the feat.

 

[maritimo80]

But where says a fighter for example, is proficient at unarmed strikes?

 

[Forged Fury]

The Fighter Proficiency section lists:

Weapons: Simple weapons, martial weapons

Unarmed Strike is listed as a Simple Weapon on the equipment chart, thus a Fighter is proficient with an Unarmed Strike.

 

[Blue]

BUT.......

If that's what you are saying why the feat Tavern Brawler says ........." You are proficient with improvised weapons and
unarmed strikes. ":

Not all classes, such as wizard, are proficient with all simple weapons so they need proficiency. Also, if an improvised weapon is not like an existing weapon (go read it's entry) you have no other way to get proficiency. The line in tavern brawler makes sure if you take the feat you are proficient.

It does not imply that there is no other way to get it.