Adamantine Hardness Ignore Question

[Droid101]

Hello! I have an adamantium longsword +5, let's say. And let's say my opponent has a cold iron and a silver scimitar, both +3. I sunder one (I have improved sunder). What are the stats?

What is the hardness/hp of my longsword?

What is the hardness/hp of the cold iron scimitar?

What is the hardness/hp of the silver scimitar?

What is the hardness/hp of either scimitar vs. my longsword (adamantium ignores hardness, as far as I know)? Does it ignore all hardness, or does it leave the hardness from the magical enhancement?

Thanks for any clarification.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Hello! I have an adamantium longsword +5, let's say. And let's say my opponent has a cold iron and a silver scimitar, both +3. I sunder one (I have improved sunder). What are the stats?

What is the hardness/hp of my longsword?

Hardness of 30 (20 for adamantine, +10 for enhancement), HP 57 (5, *1.33 for adamantine, +50 for enhancement)

What is the hardness/hp of the cold iron scimitar?

Hardness of 16 (10 for cold iron, +6 for enhancement), HP 35 (5, +30 for enhancement)

What is the hardness/hp of the silver scimitar?

Hardness of 14 (8 for silver, +6 for enhancement), HP 32 (5, *0.33 for silver, +30 for enhancement)

Notes:

Cold Iron has Hardness 10 and 30 hp/inch of thickness (same as regular iron/steel)
Silver has Hardness 8 and 10 hp/inch of thickness (so, 1/3 of iron)
Adamantine has Hardness 20 and 40 hp/inch of thickness (so, 1 1/3 of iron)

Man, silver weapons are weak.

What is the hardness/hp of either scimitar vs. my longsword (adamantium ignores hardness, as far as I know)? Does it ignore all hardness, or does it leave the hardness from the magical enhancement?

The HP of the other weapons do not change. Your adamantine longsword ignores hardness of less than 20, regardless of source, so effectively, trying to sunder either will mean you just go into their HP (since neither has hardness of 20 or higher). Both have fairly high HP, which you'll get whenever you have a weapon with a significant enhancement bonus.

However, at worst, you'll take two tries to cut the silver scimitar in half.

Brad

 

[Stalker0]

Remember though that the the enhancement protection of weapons still applies.

If you have a +3 silver sword for example, and I have a an adamantine axe, the axe cannot damage the sword because of its magical protection.

 

[Droid101]

Remember though that the the enhancement protection of weapons still applies.

If you have a +3 silver sword for example, and I have a an adamantine axe, the axe cannot damage the sword because of its magical protection.

Well, no, according to

Your adamantine longsword ignores hardness of less than 20, regardless of source

I think the SRD says the same thing.

 

[thorian]

Remember though that the the enhancement protection of weapons still applies.

If you have a +3 silver sword for example, and I have a an adamantine axe, the axe cannot damage the sword because of its magical protection.

That was the rule in 3.0, but not in 3.5.

 

[coyote6]

That was the rule in 3.0, but not in 3.5.

IIRC, the 3.5e DMG still mentions that rule, which probably causes some confusion.

 

[Hypersmurf]

IIRC, the 3.5e DMG still mentions that rule, which probably causes some confusion.

Not post-errata, it doesn't

-Hyp.